off-topic: Assuntos muito interessantes e incómodos
DE ONDE VIMOS , PARA ONDE VAMOS, QUEM NOS PÔS AQUI !?!?!?
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Um abraço ,
The Mechanic
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Um abraço ,
The Mechanic
" Os que hesitam , são atropelados pela retaguarda" - Stendhal
"É óptimo não se exercer qualquer profissão, pois um homem livre não deve viver para servir outro "
- Aristoteles
http://theflyingmechanic.blogspot.com/
"É óptimo não se exercer qualquer profissão, pois um homem livre não deve viver para servir outro "
- Aristoteles
http://theflyingmechanic.blogspot.com/
Está explicado...
Sorry... mas sendo um off-topic
Fingerspitzengefuhl Escreveu:(...)fica um apanhado das teorias da conspiração mais estapafúrdias:
-> No fim da 2ª guerra mundial os nazis refugiaram-Se na antártida e o Hitler contina vivo.
-> O mundO é controlado por judeus e satânicos.
-> As bolsas são Controladas por um computador do Goldmen.
-> Todos os dias aviões widebody pRopagam substancias nocivas com o intuito de nos envenenar.
-> Os líderes mundiAis são repteis com a capacidade de assumirem a forma de um ser humano.
-> O fim do mundo é em 2012, Tem tudo a ver com os maias, fátima e o planeta nibiru![]()
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-> Os americanos operam uma nave Espacial de propulsão nuclear, o TR3B.
O mais caricato mesmo foi um "documentário" do "canal história" que relacionava as profecias de nostradamus, fátima, 2012, and so on.
Sorry... mas sendo um off-topic

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Interessante o livro "Estado de Segredos" do jornalista Frederico Duarte Carvalho:
http://www.estadodesegredos.com/
Sobre
O nosso regime político é transparente?
Devemos acreditar em tudo o que nos relatam os jornalistas e os porta-vozes do poder? A partir de duas questões essenciais, Frederico Duarte Carvalho responde com memória, investigação e liberdade.
A recolocação dos factos marcantes, desde o 25 de Abril até ao processo “Face Oculta”, revela uma outra realidade que surpreende.
A análise de documentos públicos e confidenciais, nacionais e estrangeiros, desmistifica algumas das verdades oficiais que continuam a condicionar a Democracia.
Com base nos telegramas diplomáticos enviados para o Departamento de Estado, em Washington, entretanto desclassificados, Frederico Duarte Carvalho revela novos indícios que comprovam que a embaixada norte-americana, em Lisboa, soube, antecipadamente, da preparação da revolução de 1974. E descreve como o então embaixador Frank Carlucci, com a ajuda dos "amigos" socialistas, conseguiu influenciar o curso dos acontecimentos até à eleição de António Ramalho Eanes. Para melhor compreender a actualidade, é preciso recuar no tempo
Os massacres de Wiriamu, em Moçambique, em Dezembro de 1972, e o cancelamento do fornecimento de mísseis "RedEye" a Portugal, previsto para 23 de Abril de 1974, são dois dos factos abordados à luz do conhecimento de novos dados e provas documentais, cujas revelações remetem para as pressões externas e a influência do Clube Bilderberg. Através da consulta de diversas fontes de informação e de uma bibliografia diversificada, Frederico Duarte Carvalho determina um fio condutor desde os conflitos que marcaram as origens do regime democrático, passando pela crise governamental de finais de 2004, até aos escândalos financeiros, políticos e judiciários das últimas décadas, entre os quais destaca: "Fundo de Defesa do Ultramar", "Camarate", "GAL", "Irangate", "Moderna", "Casa Pia" e "BPN".
A marca do terrorismo, a impressão digital das 'secretas', a ascendência da maçonaria, a troca de influências, as combinações de bastidores, a inibição de alianças entre os partidos de esquerda, as suspeições generalizadas sobre os grandes negócios e a opacidade imposta por "Razões de Estado" são ainda enquadrados pelos sinais crescentes de crise de regime, pela conjuntura política, nacional e internacional, e pelos riscos de desinformação e manipulação dos Media.
Como refere Carlos Narciso, que assina o Prefácio, «estas páginas relatam uma teia de factos, aparentemente desconexos, mas que podem, afinal, estar relacionados. É esse exercício que aqui se propõe. Em nome de quê? Em nome da Liberdade»
“Estado de Segredos” é uma viagem apaixonante pela História contemporânea, em que as principais figuras políticas não escapam a um escrutínio rigoroso.
Nota do autor
Grande parte deste livro foi escrita entre 2005 e 2006, quando o governo maioritário de José Sócrates ainda estava a cumprir o primeiro ano de funções. Casos polémicos que fazem a actualidade política – como, por exemplo, “Licenciatura”, “Freeport” ou “Face Oculta” –, encontram muita da sua génese nos anos de 2001 e 2004. Esta foi a altura das grandes reviravoltas políticas e do despertar de escândalos mediáticos que, por pertencerem ao “Estado de Segredos”, permite que os actuais políticos possam gozar de uma cada vez maior impunidade de escrutínio.
Os portugueses afastam-se da política e a comunicação social está em crise de audiências e vendas. Mas, afinal de quem é a culpa?
Quando as redacções dos órgãos de comunicação social estão preenchidas por jornalistas jovens, cada vez mais novos e sem memória, a situação agrava-se ao somarmos a velocidade a que as informações se propagam e acumulam. Não há igualmente lugar ao exercício da chamada “recolocação dos factos”, ou seja, os profissionais da comunicação social apagam acontecimentos da memória colectiva que aconteceram há apenas seis anos ou seis meses, apesar destes estarem relacionadas com eventos da actualidade. Às vezes, até se esquecem de factos ocorridas seis semanas antes. Ou até mesmo há apenas seis dias.
No dia em que o presidente Jorge Sampaio anunciou a demissão do governo Pedro Santana Lopes, a 30 de Novembro de 2004, o acto ficou simbolicamente inscrito no mesmo ano em que a revolução de 25 de Abril de 1974 cumpriu três décadas.
Esses 30 anos representam várias gerações de portugueses que estão, hoje, a construir o país. Os jovens que, em 1974, tinham 15 ou 25 anos, estão agora na casa dos 45, 55 anos, percebendo que são demasiado velhos para certos empregos, mas demasiado jovens para se reformarem. São aqueles que, adultos nascidos depois de 1974, ainda têm de viver em casa dos pais devido às fracas possibilidades financeiras. São também os pais e avós desses todos que, agora reformados, desconfiam das virtudes dos actuais políticos que beneficiaram do sistema democrático sonhado para os seus descendentes e conquistado com o 25 de Abril de 1974.
Foi ao olhar para este país, a perder gradualmente a memória e, desse modo, alimentando um “Estado de Segredos” apenas ao alcance de alguns iluminados, que a presente obra foi elaborada.
http://www.estadodesegredos.com/
Sobre
O nosso regime político é transparente?
Devemos acreditar em tudo o que nos relatam os jornalistas e os porta-vozes do poder? A partir de duas questões essenciais, Frederico Duarte Carvalho responde com memória, investigação e liberdade.
A recolocação dos factos marcantes, desde o 25 de Abril até ao processo “Face Oculta”, revela uma outra realidade que surpreende.
A análise de documentos públicos e confidenciais, nacionais e estrangeiros, desmistifica algumas das verdades oficiais que continuam a condicionar a Democracia.
Com base nos telegramas diplomáticos enviados para o Departamento de Estado, em Washington, entretanto desclassificados, Frederico Duarte Carvalho revela novos indícios que comprovam que a embaixada norte-americana, em Lisboa, soube, antecipadamente, da preparação da revolução de 1974. E descreve como o então embaixador Frank Carlucci, com a ajuda dos "amigos" socialistas, conseguiu influenciar o curso dos acontecimentos até à eleição de António Ramalho Eanes. Para melhor compreender a actualidade, é preciso recuar no tempo
Os massacres de Wiriamu, em Moçambique, em Dezembro de 1972, e o cancelamento do fornecimento de mísseis "RedEye" a Portugal, previsto para 23 de Abril de 1974, são dois dos factos abordados à luz do conhecimento de novos dados e provas documentais, cujas revelações remetem para as pressões externas e a influência do Clube Bilderberg. Através da consulta de diversas fontes de informação e de uma bibliografia diversificada, Frederico Duarte Carvalho determina um fio condutor desde os conflitos que marcaram as origens do regime democrático, passando pela crise governamental de finais de 2004, até aos escândalos financeiros, políticos e judiciários das últimas décadas, entre os quais destaca: "Fundo de Defesa do Ultramar", "Camarate", "GAL", "Irangate", "Moderna", "Casa Pia" e "BPN".
A marca do terrorismo, a impressão digital das 'secretas', a ascendência da maçonaria, a troca de influências, as combinações de bastidores, a inibição de alianças entre os partidos de esquerda, as suspeições generalizadas sobre os grandes negócios e a opacidade imposta por "Razões de Estado" são ainda enquadrados pelos sinais crescentes de crise de regime, pela conjuntura política, nacional e internacional, e pelos riscos de desinformação e manipulação dos Media.
Como refere Carlos Narciso, que assina o Prefácio, «estas páginas relatam uma teia de factos, aparentemente desconexos, mas que podem, afinal, estar relacionados. É esse exercício que aqui se propõe. Em nome de quê? Em nome da Liberdade»
“Estado de Segredos” é uma viagem apaixonante pela História contemporânea, em que as principais figuras políticas não escapam a um escrutínio rigoroso.
Nota do autor
Grande parte deste livro foi escrita entre 2005 e 2006, quando o governo maioritário de José Sócrates ainda estava a cumprir o primeiro ano de funções. Casos polémicos que fazem a actualidade política – como, por exemplo, “Licenciatura”, “Freeport” ou “Face Oculta” –, encontram muita da sua génese nos anos de 2001 e 2004. Esta foi a altura das grandes reviravoltas políticas e do despertar de escândalos mediáticos que, por pertencerem ao “Estado de Segredos”, permite que os actuais políticos possam gozar de uma cada vez maior impunidade de escrutínio.
Os portugueses afastam-se da política e a comunicação social está em crise de audiências e vendas. Mas, afinal de quem é a culpa?
Quando as redacções dos órgãos de comunicação social estão preenchidas por jornalistas jovens, cada vez mais novos e sem memória, a situação agrava-se ao somarmos a velocidade a que as informações se propagam e acumulam. Não há igualmente lugar ao exercício da chamada “recolocação dos factos”, ou seja, os profissionais da comunicação social apagam acontecimentos da memória colectiva que aconteceram há apenas seis anos ou seis meses, apesar destes estarem relacionadas com eventos da actualidade. Às vezes, até se esquecem de factos ocorridas seis semanas antes. Ou até mesmo há apenas seis dias.
No dia em que o presidente Jorge Sampaio anunciou a demissão do governo Pedro Santana Lopes, a 30 de Novembro de 2004, o acto ficou simbolicamente inscrito no mesmo ano em que a revolução de 25 de Abril de 1974 cumpriu três décadas.
Esses 30 anos representam várias gerações de portugueses que estão, hoje, a construir o país. Os jovens que, em 1974, tinham 15 ou 25 anos, estão agora na casa dos 45, 55 anos, percebendo que são demasiado velhos para certos empregos, mas demasiado jovens para se reformarem. São aqueles que, adultos nascidos depois de 1974, ainda têm de viver em casa dos pais devido às fracas possibilidades financeiras. São também os pais e avós desses todos que, agora reformados, desconfiam das virtudes dos actuais políticos que beneficiaram do sistema democrático sonhado para os seus descendentes e conquistado com o 25 de Abril de 1974.
Foi ao olhar para este país, a perder gradualmente a memória e, desse modo, alimentando um “Estado de Segredos” apenas ao alcance de alguns iluminados, que a presente obra foi elaborada.
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Homem na Lua???? Claro que não! Tudo não passou de uma trapaça (gosto desta palavra...) americana! Não viram as fotos tiradas na "Lua" em que não se vêem as estrelas? E as explicações da NASA são (obviamente) um embuste (embuste também é bonito).
Desculpem lá mas não resisti à tentação de meter a minha colherada num tópico tão rebuscado quanto este... Enfim...
Desculpem lá mas não resisti à tentação de meter a minha colherada num tópico tão rebuscado quanto este... Enfim...
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AutoMech Escreveu:Romeu, achas que o homem foi à lua ?
Não vale a pena colocar-lhe questões, está visto que o homem não responde a ninguém.
Vê-se que está cá para fazer a sua propaganda e mais nada.
Até o Marco estava a ser completamente ignorado, até chegar ameaças de expulsão e apagar dos tópicos.

Sempre que pensei que todos os tópicos, mesmo os off-topics, fossem para discutir os assuntos... começando pelos autores de tópicos.
Daí se tiram elações sobre as suas pretensões e objectivos!

Por vezes costumava assistir a alguns desses filmes no youtube para descontrair e me rir um pouco, fica um apanhado das teorias da conspiração mais estapafúrdias:
-> No fim da 2ª guerra mundial os nazis refugiaram-se na antártida e o Hitler contina vivo.
-> O mundo é controlado por judeus e satânicos.
-> As bolsas são controladas por um computador do Goldmen.
-> Todos os dias aviões widebody propagam substancias nocivas com o intuito de nos envenenar.
-> Os líderes mundiais são repteis com a capacidade de assumirem a forma de um ser humano.
-> O fim do mundo é em 2012, tem tudo a ver com os maias, fátima e o planeta nibiru
-> Os americanos operam uma nave espacial de propulsão nuclear, o TR3B.
O mais caricato mesmo foi um "documentário" do "canal história" que relacionava as profecias de nostradamus, fátima, 2012, and so on.
O ênfase que davam ao drama com música escolhida para criar suspense, o empenho com que o narrador falava, parecia estar a recitar factos históricos...
E conheço muito boa gente que acredita nessas tretas, eu bem tento refutar as teorias mas quando vêm que não têm argumentos ficam a olhar para mim como se fosse o advogado do diabo.

-> No fim da 2ª guerra mundial os nazis refugiaram-se na antártida e o Hitler contina vivo.
-> O mundo é controlado por judeus e satânicos.
-> As bolsas são controladas por um computador do Goldmen.
-> Todos os dias aviões widebody propagam substancias nocivas com o intuito de nos envenenar.
-> Os líderes mundiais são repteis com a capacidade de assumirem a forma de um ser humano.
-> O fim do mundo é em 2012, tem tudo a ver com os maias, fátima e o planeta nibiru


-> Os americanos operam uma nave espacial de propulsão nuclear, o TR3B.
O mais caricato mesmo foi um "documentário" do "canal história" que relacionava as profecias de nostradamus, fátima, 2012, and so on.
O ênfase que davam ao drama com música escolhida para criar suspense, o empenho com que o narrador falava, parecia estar a recitar factos históricos...
E conheço muito boa gente que acredita nessas tretas, eu bem tento refutar as teorias mas quando vêm que não têm argumentos ficam a olhar para mim como se fosse o advogado do diabo.

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É sempre importante , ver estes tipo de documentários, embora tenham muitos disparates, mas também dizem muitas verdades.
A maioria pensa que vive num mundo livre , e não é verdade. Os países vigiam-se uns aos outros, vigiam , os seus cidadãos e dos outros, estamos numa antecâmara de uma nova ordem mundial , com o aumento da população, escassez de recursos maturais e agrícolas, é um perfeito caldeirão para desgraças.
Já agora aconselho a leitura de um livro . que acabei de ler "Estados de Segredos" de Frederico Duarte Carvalho, aborda diversos temas , mas explica , quem na verdade manda neste país, e papel do grupo Bilderberg, para derrubar o estado novo, com o 25A.
A maioria pensa que vive num mundo livre , e não é verdade. Os países vigiam-se uns aos outros, vigiam , os seus cidadãos e dos outros, estamos numa antecâmara de uma nova ordem mundial , com o aumento da população, escassez de recursos maturais e agrícolas, é um perfeito caldeirão para desgraças.
Já agora aconselho a leitura de um livro . que acabei de ler "Estados de Segredos" de Frederico Duarte Carvalho, aborda diversos temas , mas explica , quem na verdade manda neste país, e papel do grupo Bilderberg, para derrubar o estado novo, com o 25A.
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Já ouviram falar das operações de falsa-bandeira (false-flag operations) ?
Infelizmente grande parte dos grandes atentados terroristas atribuídos a organizações islâmicas e outras (ver Operação Gládio)foram patrocinados secretamente por governos ocidentais (false-flag operations).
Excelente documentário da BBC sobre a Operação Gládio:
Operation Gladio Ep 1of3 1-5 State Sponsored Terrorism in Europe 1992 - BBC Timewatch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Likd23FgM
Frequentemente os "extremistas islâmicos" não sabem que estão a ser utilizados como "patsies" (bodes expiatórios) de ataques planeados e patrocinados pelos serviços de inteligência dos EUA e seus aliados.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/patsies
patsy [?pæts?]
n pl -sies Slang chiefly US and Canadian
1. a person who is easily cheated, victimized, etc.
2. a scapegoat
Wikipedia
False flag operations are covert operations designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example during Italy's strategy of tension.
A black operation or black op is a covert operation typically involving activities that are highly clandestine and, often, outside of standard military protocol or even against the law. A key factor in making an operation "black" is that it is carried out with great secrecy; in many cases no records of the operation are kept. Similarly, a secret budget (such as for military or intelligence operations) is called a "Black budget".[1][2]
Infelizmente grande parte dos grandes atentados terroristas atribuídos a organizações islâmicas e outras (ver Operação Gládio)foram patrocinados secretamente por governos ocidentais (false-flag operations).
Excelente documentário da BBC sobre a Operação Gládio:
Operation Gladio Ep 1of3 1-5 State Sponsored Terrorism in Europe 1992 - BBC Timewatch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Likd23FgM
Frequentemente os "extremistas islâmicos" não sabem que estão a ser utilizados como "patsies" (bodes expiatórios) de ataques planeados e patrocinados pelos serviços de inteligência dos EUA e seus aliados.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/patsies
patsy [?pæts?]
n pl -sies Slang chiefly US and Canadian
1. a person who is easily cheated, victimized, etc.
2. a scapegoat
Wikipedia
False flag operations are covert operations designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example during Italy's strategy of tension.
A black operation or black op is a covert operation typically involving activities that are highly clandestine and, often, outside of standard military protocol or even against the law. A key factor in making an operation "black" is that it is carried out with great secrecy; in many cases no records of the operation are kept. Similarly, a secret budget (such as for military or intelligence operations) is called a "Black budget".[1][2]
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Há! O mapaman já sugeriu...
mapaman Escreveu:Camarada!
venho aqui apresentar-lhe um site que o vai fazer perder o sono tanto é o assunto para desbravar.
http://www.realidadeoculta.com/index2010.html
hasta
Hoje pareceu-me ver o Elvis a passear acompanhado por alguem muito mas mesmo muito parecido com a Diana.Sabes algo sobre isto?
"People want to be told what to do so badly that they'll listen to anyone." - Don Draper, Mad Men
Documentários com informação censurada pelos meios de comunicação "oficiais" cada vez mais desacreditados:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dtKKjcW ... re=related
America: From Freedom to Fascism1 - LEGENDADO PT
O falecido produtor Aaron Russo nesse importante documentário, embarca numa viagem através de seu país numa busca por respostas sobre e existência ou não de uma lei que obriga os americanos a pagar o imposto de renda.
Sem fundo de esquerdas e nem direitas, é na verdade um exame exaustivo ao Governo - Expondo as erosões das Liberdades Civis nos EEUU que teve seus primórdios em 1913 com a fraudulenta criação da Reserva Federal e argumenta mediante entrevistas a Congressistas, antigos fiscais da Receita Federal, e FBI, acessores de impostos e escritores.
Russo ata os cabos soltos existentes entre a criação do dinheiro, o imposto sobre a renda e o cartão nacional de identidade que se converte em lei em maio de 2008 (RG digital). Este documentário demonstra com grande detalhe o inegável feito de que os EUA pouco a pouco está se convertendo em um estado policial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBpgqYWm ... re=related
ENDGAME:JOGO FINAL- PLANO PARA ESCRAVIDÃO GLOBAL 1
Polêmico documentário do produtor americano Alex Jones que revela a agenda dos globalistas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdqMUKmG ... re=related
A Decepção Obama (The Obama Deception) 2009 Legendado - 01 de 11
Sinopse:
The Obama Deception ("Obama, a Fraude" ou "A Decepção Obama") é um filme que destrói completamente o mito de que Barack Obama está a trabalhando para os interesses do povo americano. O fenômeno Obama é uma farsa cuidadosamente concebida pelos comandantes da Nova Ordem Mundial. Ele está sendo empurrado como salvador numa tentativa de convencer o povo americano a aceitar a escravidão global. Chegamos num momento crítico dos planos da Nova Ordem Mundial. Não se trata de esquerda ou direita: trata-se de Um Governo Mundial. Os bancos internacionais planejam saquear o povo dos Estados Unidos da América [e do mundo] e transformá-los em escravos num feudo Global.
A Queda da República (Fall of the Republic) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3F0eTB5pio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKDTSZo8 ... re=related
TERRORSTORM 1 - PT
documentário Terrorstorm de Alex Jones legendado. Mostra como o terrorismo é patrocinado secretamente por alguns governos que depois o usam como pretexto para aumentar o controlo e a vigilância sobre os cidadãos.
www.infowars.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dtKKjcW ... re=related
America: From Freedom to Fascism1 - LEGENDADO PT
O falecido produtor Aaron Russo nesse importante documentário, embarca numa viagem através de seu país numa busca por respostas sobre e existência ou não de uma lei que obriga os americanos a pagar o imposto de renda.
Sem fundo de esquerdas e nem direitas, é na verdade um exame exaustivo ao Governo - Expondo as erosões das Liberdades Civis nos EEUU que teve seus primórdios em 1913 com a fraudulenta criação da Reserva Federal e argumenta mediante entrevistas a Congressistas, antigos fiscais da Receita Federal, e FBI, acessores de impostos e escritores.
Russo ata os cabos soltos existentes entre a criação do dinheiro, o imposto sobre a renda e o cartão nacional de identidade que se converte em lei em maio de 2008 (RG digital). Este documentário demonstra com grande detalhe o inegável feito de que os EUA pouco a pouco está se convertendo em um estado policial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBpgqYWm ... re=related
ENDGAME:JOGO FINAL- PLANO PARA ESCRAVIDÃO GLOBAL 1
Polêmico documentário do produtor americano Alex Jones que revela a agenda dos globalistas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdqMUKmG ... re=related
A Decepção Obama (The Obama Deception) 2009 Legendado - 01 de 11
Sinopse:
The Obama Deception ("Obama, a Fraude" ou "A Decepção Obama") é um filme que destrói completamente o mito de que Barack Obama está a trabalhando para os interesses do povo americano. O fenômeno Obama é uma farsa cuidadosamente concebida pelos comandantes da Nova Ordem Mundial. Ele está sendo empurrado como salvador numa tentativa de convencer o povo americano a aceitar a escravidão global. Chegamos num momento crítico dos planos da Nova Ordem Mundial. Não se trata de esquerda ou direita: trata-se de Um Governo Mundial. Os bancos internacionais planejam saquear o povo dos Estados Unidos da América [e do mundo] e transformá-los em escravos num feudo Global.
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Highly-Credible People
Question 9/11
The following people question the government's version of 9/11, or the government's openness in providing information about the September 11 attacks.
9/11 COMMISSIONERS
The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) said that the CIA (and likely the White House) "obstructed our investigation".
The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people (free subscription required).
Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.
9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history.
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ."
9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"
Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up".
9/11 Commissioner John Lehman said that “We purposely put together a staff that had – in a way - conflicts of interest".
The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."
CONGRESS
According to the Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, a U.S. government informant was the landlord to two of the hijackers for over a year (but the White House refused to let the 9/11 inquiry interview him).
Current U.S. Senator (Patrick Leahy) states "The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?"
Current Republican Congressman (Ron Paul) calls for a new 9/11 investigation and states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on"
Current Democratic Congressman (Dennis Kucinich) hints that we aren't being told the truth about 9/11
Former Democratic Senator (Mike Gravel) states that he supports a new 9/11 investigation and that we don't know the truth about 9/11
Former Republican Senator (Lincoln Chaffee) endorses a new 9/11 investigation
Former U.S. Democratic Congressman (Dan Hamburg) says that the U.S. government "assisted" in the 9/11 attacks, stating that "I think there was a lot of help from the inside"
Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee (Curt Weldon) has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job
MILITARY LEADERS
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan (Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt" (bio)
Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated that 9/11 was an inside job. He also said:
"If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an old interceptor pilot—I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were, and I know what they’ve changed them to—if our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!"
U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director, decorated with the Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal (Capt. Daniel Davis) stated:
"there is no way that an aircraft . . . would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control ... Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a 'conspiracy Theory' does not change the truth. It seems, 'Something is rotten in the State.' "
President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguished Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals (Lt. Col. Jeff Latas) is a member of a group which doubts the government's version of 9/11
U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said "We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a long time."
Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official (Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski) finds various aspects of 9/11 suspicious
Lieutenant colonel, 24-year Air Force career, Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs at the Defense Language Institute (Lt. Colonel Steve Butler) said "Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism."
Two-Star general (Major General Albert Stubbelbine) questions the attack on the Pentagon
U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year Air Force career (Lt. Colonel Guy S. Razer) said the following:
"I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government ....
Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.
We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"
U.S. Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, a fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown and a 21-year Marine Corps career (Lt. Colonel Shelton F. Lankford) believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and said:
"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future. ...
Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.
If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? ....
Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? ..."
U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' pilot (Commander Ralph Kolstad) who questions the official account of 9/11 and is calling for a new investigation, says "When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is very little to believe in the official story".
The Group Director on matters of national security in the U.S. Government Accountability Office said that President Bush did not respond to unprecedented warnings of the 9/11 disaster and conducted a massive cover-up instead of accepting responsibility
Additionally, numerous military leaders from allied governments have questioned 9/11, such as:
Canadian Minister of Defense, the top military leader of Canada (Paul Hellyer)
Assistant German Defense Minister (Andreas Von Bulow)
Commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy (Anatoli Kornukov)
Chief of staff of the Russian armed forces (General Leonid Ivashov)
INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS
Former military analyst and famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg recently said that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers". He also said that the government is ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11. And he said that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that there's enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath.
A 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials (Raymond McGovern) said “I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 Report is a joke”, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job.
A 29-year CIA veteran, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis (William Bill Christison) said “I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. ... All three [buildings that were destroyed in the World Trade Center] were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11." (and see this).
20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer (David Steele) stated that "9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was probably an inside job (see Customer Review dated October 7, 2006).
A decorated 20-year CIA veteran, who Pulitzer-Prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh called "perhaps the best on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East”, and whose astounding career formed the script for the Academy Award winning motion picture Syriana (Robert Baer) said that"the evidence points at" 9/11 having had aspects of being an inside job .
The Division Chief of the CIA’s Office of Soviet Affairs, who served as Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990. He also served as Professor of International Security at the National War College from 1986 - 2004 (Melvin Goodman) said "The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately a coverup."
Professor of History and International Relations, University of Maryland. Former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency, former military attaché in China, with a 21-year career in U.S. Army Intelligence (Major John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army) questions the government's version of the events of 9/11.
The head of all U.S. intelligence, the Director of National Intelligence (Mike McConnel) said "9/11 should have and could have been prevented"
A number of intelligence officials, including a CIA Operations Officer who co-chaired a CIA multi-agency task force coordinating intelligence efforts among many intelligence and law enforcement agencies (Lynne Larkin) sent a joint letter to Congress expressing their concerns about “serious shortcomings,” “omissions,” and “major flaws” in the 9/11 Commission Report and offering their services for a new investigation (they were ignored).
SCIENTISTS
A prominent physicist with 33 years of service for the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC (Dr. David L. Griscom) said that the official theory for why the Twin Towers and world trade center building 7 collapsed "does not match the available facts" and supports the theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition
A world-renowned scientist, recipient of the National Medal of Science, America's highest honor for scientific achievement (Dr. Lynn Margulis) said:
"I suggest that those of us aware and concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken."
The former head of the Fire Science Division of the government agency which claims that the World Trade Centers collapsed due to fire (the National Institute of Standards and Technology), who is one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering (Dr. James Quintiere), called for an independent review of the World Trade Center Twin Tower collapse investigation. "I wish that there would be a peer review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they've done; both structurally and from a fire point of view. ... I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable."
The principal electrical engineer for the entire World Trade Center complex, who was "very familiar with the structures and [the Twin Towers'] conceptual design parameters" (Richard F. Humenn), stated that "the mass and strength of the structure should have survived the localized damage caused by the planes and burning jet fuel . . . . the fuel and planes alone did not bring the Towers down."
Former Director for Research, Director for Aeronautical Projects, and Flight Research Program Manager for NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center, who holds masters degrees in both physics and engineering (Dwain A. Deets) says:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Centers on 9/11].''
A prominent physicist, former U.S. professor of physics from a top university, and a former principal investigator for the U.S. Department of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects (Dr. Steven E. Jones) stated that the world trade centers were brought down by controlled demolition
A U.S. physics professor who teaches at several universities (Dr. Crockett Grabbe) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition
An expert on demolition (Bent Lund) said that the trade centers were brought down with explosives (in Danish)
A Dutch demolition expert (Danny Jowenko) stated that WTC 7 was imploded
A safety engineer and accident analyst for the Finnish National Safety Technology Authority (Dr. Heikki Kurttila) stated regarding WTC 7 that "The great speed of the collapse and the low value of the resistance factor strongly suggest controlled demolition."
A 13-year professor of metallurgical engineering at a U.S. university, with a PhD in materials engineering, a former Congressional Office of Technology Assessment Senior Staff Member (Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn), is calling for a new investigation of 9/11
A Danish professor of chemistry (Dr. Niels Harrit) said, in a mainstream Danish newspaper, "WTC7 collapsed exactly like a house of cards. If the fires or damage in one corner had played a decisive role, the building would have fallen in that direction. You don't have to be a woodcutter to grasp this" (translated)
A former guidance systems engineer for Polaris and Trident missiles and professor emeritus, mathematics and computer science at a university concluded (Dr. Bruce R. Henry) that the Twin Towers "were brought down by planted explosives."
A mechanical engineer with 20 years experience as a Fire Protection Engineer for the U.S. Departments of Energy, Defense, and Veterans Affairs, who is a contributing Subject Matter Expert to the U.S. Department of Energy Fire Protection Engineering Functional Area Qualification Standard for Nuclear Facilities, a board member of the Northern California - Nevada Chapter of the Society of Fire Protection Engineers, currently serving as Fire Protection Engineer for the city of San Jose, California, the 10th largest city in the United States (Edward S. Munyak) believes that the World Trade Center was destroyed by controlled demolition.
The former Chief of the Strategic and Emergency Planning Branch, U.S. Department of Energy, and former Director of the Office of Engineering at the Public Service Commission in Washington, D.C., who is a mechanical engineer (Enver Masud) , does not believe the official story, and believes that there is a prima facie case for controlled demolition of the World Trade Center.
A professor of mathematics (Gary Welz) said "The official explanation that I've heard doesn't make sense because it doesn't explain why I heard and felt an explosion before the South Tower fell and why the concrete was pulverized"
STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS
A prominent engineer with 55 years experience, in charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects including high rise offices, former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council (Marx Ayres) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition (see also this)
Two professors of structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (Dr. Joerg Schneider and Dr. Hugo Bachmann) said that, on 9/11, World Trade Center 7 was brought down by controlled demolition (translation here)
Kamal S. Obeid, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Berkeley, of Fremont, California
Ronald H. Brookman, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Davis, of Novato California
Graham John Inman, structural engineer, of London, England
Paul W. Mason, structural engineer, of Melbourne, Australia
Mills M. Kay Mackey, structural engineer, of Denver, Colorado
David Scott, Structural Engineer, of Scotland
Nathan Lomba, Structural Engineer, of Eureka, California
Edward E. Knesl, civil and structural engineer, of Phoenix, Arizona
David Topete, civil and structural engineer, San Francisco, California
Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas (and see this)
Dennis Kollar, structural engineer, of West Bend, Wisconsin
Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired)
Michael T. Donly, P.E., structural engineer
William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont Technical College
An architect, member of the American Institute of Architects, who has been a practicing architect for 20 years and has been responsible for the production of construction documents for numerous steel-framed and fire-protected buildings for uses in many different areas, including education, civic, rapid transit and industrial use (Richard Gage) disputes the claim that fire and airplane damage brought down the World Trade Centers and believes there is strong evidence of controlled demolition (many other architects who question 9/11 are listed here)
LEGAL SCHOLARS
Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer, and currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services (John Loftus) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Former Inspector General, U.S. Department of Transportation; former Professor of Aviation, Dept. of Aerospace Engineering and Aviation and Professor of Public Policy, Ohio State University (Mary Schiavo) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign; a leading practitioner and advocate of international law; responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention; served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court, with a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University (Dr. Francis Boyle) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Former prosecutor in the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section of the U.S. Justice Department and a key member of Attorney General Bobby Kennedy’s anti-corruption task force; former assistant U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois (J. Terrence "Terry" Brunner) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Professor Emeritus, International Law, Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University; in 2001 served on the three-person UN Commission on Human Rights for the Palestine Territories, and previously, on the Independent International Commission on Kosovo (Richard Falk) questions the government's version of 9/11., and asks whether the Neocons were behind 9/11.
Bessie Dutton Murray Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and Director, Center for Human Rights, University of Iowa; Fellow, World Academy of Art and Science. Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American Journal of International Law (Burns H. Weston) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Former president of the National Lawyers Guild (C. Peter Erlinder), who signed a petition calling for a real investigation into 9/11. And see petition.
Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University; associate General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents; Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations; former Federal Sky Marshall; 27-year U.S. Customs career (Mark Conrad) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Professor of Law, University of Freiburg; former Minister of Justice of West Germany (Horst Ehmke) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Director of Academic Programs, Institute for Policy and Economic Development, University of Texas, El Paso, specializing in executive branch secrecy policy, governmental abuse, and law and bureaucracy; former U.S. Army Signals Intelligence officer; author of several books on law and political theory (Dr. William G. Weaver) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Famed trial attorney (Gerry Spence) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Former Instructor of Criminal Trial Practice, Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California at Berkeley 11-year teaching career. Retired Chief Assistant Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California 31-year career (William Veale) said:
"When you grow up in the United States, there are some bedrock principles that require concerted effort to discard. One is the simplest: that our leaders are good and decent people whose efforts may occasionally warrant criticism but never because of malice or venality... But one grows up. ... And with the lawyer's training comes the reliance on evidence and the facts that persuade... After a lot of reading, thought, study, and commiseration, I have come to the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were, in their essence, an inside job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U S government."
FAMILY MEMBERS AND HEROIC FIRST RESPONDERS
A common criticism of those who question 9/11 is that they are being "disrespectful to the victims and their families".
However, half of the victim's families believe that 9/11 was an inside job (according to the head of the largest 9/11 family group, Bill Doyle) (and listen to this interview). Many family and friends of victims not only support the search for 9/11 truth, but they demand it (please ignore the partisan tone). See also this interview.
Indeed, it has now become so clear that the 9/11 Commission was a whitewash that the same 9/11 widows who called for the creation of the 9/11 Commission are now demanding a NEW investigation (see also this video).
And dying heroes, soon-to-be victims themselves, the first responders who worked tirelessly to save lives on and after 9/11, say that controlled demolition brought down the Twin Towers and that a real investigation is necessary.
PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS
Finally, those who attack people who question the government's version of 9/11 as "crazy" may wish to review the list of mental health professionals who have concluded that the official version of 9/11 is false:
Psychiatrist Carol S. Wolman, MD
Psychiatrist E. Martin Schotz
Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Duke University Medical Center, as well as Radiology, at Duke University Medical Center D. Lawrence Burk, Jr., MD
Board of Governors Distinguished Service Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of the Graduate School at Ruters University Barry R. Komisaruk
Professor of Psychology at University of New Hampshire William Woodward
Professor of Psychology at University of Essex Philip Cozzolino
Professor of Psychology at Goddard College Catherine Lowther
Professor Emeritus of Psychology at California Institute of Integral Studies Ralph Metzner
Professor of Psychology at Rhodes University Mike Earl-Taylor
Retired Professor of Psychology at Oxford University Graham Harris
Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Nebraska and licensed Psychologist Ronald Feintech
Ph.D. Clinical Neuropsychologist Richard Welser
THOUSANDS OF OTHERS
The roster above is only a sample. There are too many Ph.D. scientists and engineers, architects, military and intelligence officials, politicians, legal scholars and other highly-credible people who question 9/11 -- literally thousands -- to list in one place. Here are a few additional people to consider:
The former director of the FBI (Louis Freeh) says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission
Former air traffic controller, who knows the flight corridor which the two planes which hit the Twin Towers flew "like the back of my hand" and who handled two actual hijackings (Robin Hordon) says that 9/11 could not have occurred as the government says, and that planes can be tracked on radar even when their transponders are turned off (also, listen to this interview)
Perhaps "the premiere collapse expert in the country", who 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer referred to as a "very, very respected expert on building collapse", the head of the New York Fire Department's Special Operations Command and the most highly decorated firefighter in its NYFD history, who had previously "commanded rescue operations at many difficult and complex disasters, including the Oklahoma City Bombing, the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, and many natural disasters worldwide" thought that the collapse of the South Tower was caused by bombs, because the collapse of the building was too even to have been caused by anything else (pages 5-6).
Former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter (Morton Goulder), former former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism (Edward L. Peck), and former US Department of State Foreign Service Officer (J. Michael Springmann), as well as a who's who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new investigation into 9/11
Former FBI agent (Robert Wright) says "The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred."
Former FBI translator, who the Department of Justice's Inspector General and several senators have called extremely credible (free subscription required) (Sibel Edmonds), said "If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up". She also is leaning towards the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job. Some of her allegations have been confirmed in the British press.
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Highly-Credible People
Question 9/11
The following people question the government's version of 9/11, or the government's openness in providing information about the September 11 attacks.
9/11 COMMISSIONERS
The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) said that the CIA (and likely the White House) "obstructed our investigation".
The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people (free subscription required).
Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.
9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history.
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ."
9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"
Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up".
9/11 Commissioner John Lehman said that “We purposely put together a staff that had – in a way - conflicts of interest".
The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."
CONGRESS
According to the Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, a U.S. government informant was the landlord to two of the hijackers for over a year (but the White House refused to let the 9/11 inquiry interview him).
Current U.S. Senator (Patrick Leahy) states "The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?"
Current Republican Congressman (Ron Paul) calls for a new 9/11 investigation and states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on"
Current Democratic Congressman (Dennis Kucinich) hints that we aren't being told the truth about 9/11
Former Democratic Senator (Mike Gravel) states that he supports a new 9/11 investigation and that we don't know the truth about 9/11
Former Republican Senator (Lincoln Chaffee) endorses a new 9/11 investigation
Former U.S. Democratic Congressman (Dan Hamburg) says that the U.S. government "assisted" in the 9/11 attacks, stating that "I think there was a lot of help from the inside"
Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee (Curt Weldon) has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job
MILITARY LEADERS
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan (Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt" (bio)
Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated that 9/11 was an inside job. He also said:
"If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an old interceptor pilot—I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were, and I know what they’ve changed them to—if our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!"
U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director, decorated with the Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal (Capt. Daniel Davis) stated:
"there is no way that an aircraft . . . would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control ... Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a 'conspiracy Theory' does not change the truth. It seems, 'Something is rotten in the State.' "
President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguished Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals (Lt. Col. Jeff Latas) is a member of a group which doubts the government's version of 9/11
U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said "We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a long time."
Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official (Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski) finds various aspects of 9/11 suspicious
Lieutenant colonel, 24-year Air Force career, Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs at the Defense Language Institute (Lt. Colonel Steve Butler) said "Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism."
Two-Star general (Major General Albert Stubbelbine) questions the attack on the Pentagon
U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year Air Force career (Lt. Colonel Guy S. Razer) said the following:
"I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government ....
Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.
We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"
U.S. Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, a fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown and a 21-year Marine Corps career (Lt. Colonel Shelton F. Lankford) believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and said:
"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future. ...
Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.
If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? ....
Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? ..."
U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' pilot (Commander Ralph Kolstad) who questions the official account of 9/11 and is calling for a new investigation, says "When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is very little to believe in the official story".
The Group Director on matters of national security in the U.S. Government Accountability Office said that President Bush did not respond to unprecedented warnings of the 9/11 disaster and conducted a massive cover-up instead of accepting responsibility
Additionally, numerous military leaders from allied governments have questioned 9/11, such as:
Canadian Minister of Defense, the top military leader of Canada (Paul Hellyer)
Assistant German Defense Minister (Andreas Von Bulow)
Commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy (Anatoli Kornukov)
Chief of staff of the Russian armed forces (General Leonid Ivashov)
INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS
Former military analyst and famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg recently said that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers". He also said that the government is ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11. And he said that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that there's enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath.
A 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials (Raymond McGovern) said “I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 Report is a joke”, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job.
A 29-year CIA veteran, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis (William Bill Christison) said “I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. ... All three [buildings that were destroyed in the World Trade Center] were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11." (and see this).
20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer (David Steele) stated that "9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was probably an inside job (see Customer Review dated October 7, 2006).
A decorated 20-year CIA veteran, who Pulitzer-Prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh called "perhaps the best on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East”, and whose astounding career formed the script for the Academy Award winning motion picture Syriana (Robert Baer) said that"the evidence points at" 9/11 having had aspects of being an inside job .
The Division Chief of the CIA’s Office of Soviet Affairs, who served as Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990. He also served as Professor of International Security at the National War College from 1986 - 2004 (Melvin Goodman) said "The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately a coverup."
Professor of History and International Relations, University of Maryland. Former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency, former military attaché in China, with a 21-year career in U.S. Army Intelligence (Major John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army) questions the government's version of the events of 9/11.
The head of all U.S. intelligence, the Director of National Intelligence (Mike McConnel) said "9/11 should have and could have been prevented"
A number of intelligence officials, including a CIA Operations Officer who co-chaired a CIA multi-agency task force coordinating intelligence efforts among many intelligence and law enforcement agencies (Lynne Larkin) sent a joint letter to Congress expressing their concerns about “serious shortcomings,” “omissions,” and “major flaws” in the 9/11 Commission Report and offering their services for a new investigation (they were ignored).
SCIENTISTS
A prominent physicist with 33 years of service for the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC (Dr. David L. Griscom) said that the official theory for why the Twin Towers and world trade center building 7 collapsed "does not match the available facts" and supports the theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition
A world-renowned scientist, recipient of the National Medal of Science, America's highest honor for scientific achievement (Dr. Lynn Margulis) said:
"I suggest that those of us aware and concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken."
The former head of the Fire Science Division of the government agency which claims that the World Trade Centers collapsed due to fire (the National Institute of Standards and Technology), who is one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering (Dr. James Quintiere), called for an independent review of the World Trade Center Twin Tower collapse investigation. "I wish that there would be a peer review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they've done; both structurally and from a fire point of view. ... I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable."
The principal electrical engineer for the entire World Trade Center complex, who was "very familiar with the structures and [the Twin Towers'] conceptual design parameters" (Richard F. Humenn), stated that "the mass and strength of the structure should have survived the localized damage caused by the planes and burning jet fuel . . . . the fuel and planes alone did not bring the Towers down."
Former Director for Research, Director for Aeronautical Projects, and Flight Research Program Manager for NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center, who holds masters degrees in both physics and engineering (Dwain A. Deets) says:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Centers on 9/11].''
A prominent physicist, former U.S. professor of physics from a top university, and a former principal investigator for the U.S. Department of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects (Dr. Steven E. Jones) stated that the world trade centers were brought down by controlled demolition
A U.S. physics professor who teaches at several universities (Dr. Crockett Grabbe) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition
An expert on demolition (Bent Lund) said that the trade centers were brought down with explosives (in Danish)
A Dutch demolition expert (Danny Jowenko) stated that WTC 7 was imploded
A safety engineer and accident analyst for the Finnish National Safety Technology Authority (Dr. Heikki Kurttila) stated regarding WTC 7 that "The great speed of the collapse and the low value of the resistance factor strongly suggest controlled demolition."
A 13-year professor of metallurgical engineering at a U.S. university, with a PhD in materials engineering, a former Congressional Office of Technology Assessment Senior Staff Member (Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn), is calling for a new investigation of 9/11
A Danish professor of chemistry (Dr. Niels Harrit) said, in a mainstream Danish newspaper, "WTC7 collapsed exactly like a house of cards. If the fires or damage in one corner had played a decisive role, the building would have fallen in that direction. You don't have to be a woodcutter to grasp this" (translated)
A former guidance systems engineer for Polaris and Trident missiles and professor emeritus, mathematics and computer science at a university concluded (Dr. Bruce R. Henry) that the Twin Towers "were brought down by planted explosives."
A mechanical engineer with 20 years experience as a Fire Protection Engineer for the U.S. Departments of Energy, Defense, and Veterans Affairs, who is a contributing Subject Matter Expert to the U.S. Department of Energy Fire Protection Engineering Functional Area Qualification Standard for Nuclear Facilities, a board member of the Northern California - Nevada Chapter of the Society of Fire Protection Engineers, currently serving as Fire Protection Engineer for the city of San Jose, California, the 10th largest city in the United States (Edward S. Munyak) believes that the World Trade Center was destroyed by controlled demolition.
The former Chief of the Strategic and Emergency Planning Branch, U.S. Department of Energy, and former Director of the Office of Engineering at the Public Service Commission in Washington, D.C., who is a mechanical engineer (Enver Masud) , does not believe the official story, and believes that there is a prima facie case for controlled demolition of the World Trade Center.
A professor of mathematics (Gary Welz) said "The official explanation that I've heard doesn't make sense because it doesn't explain why I heard and felt an explosion before the South Tower fell and why the concrete was pulverized"
STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS
A prominent engineer with 55 years experience, in charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects including high rise offices, former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council (Marx Ayres) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition (see also this)
Two professors of structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (Dr. Joerg Schneider and Dr. Hugo Bachmann) said that, on 9/11, World Trade Center 7 was brought down by controlled demolition (translation here)
Kamal S. Obeid, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Berkeley, of Fremont, California
Ronald H. Brookman, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Davis, of Novato California
Graham John Inman, structural engineer, of London, England
Paul W. Mason, structural engineer, of Melbourne, Australia
Mills M. Kay Mackey, structural engineer, of Denver, Colorado
David Scott, Structural Engineer, of Scotland
Nathan Lomba, Structural Engineer, of Eureka, California
Edward E. Knesl, civil and structural engineer, of Phoenix, Arizona
David Topete, civil and structural engineer, San Francisco, California
Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas (and see this)
Dennis Kollar, structural engineer, of West Bend, Wisconsin
Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired)
Michael T. Donly, P.E., structural engineer
William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont Technical College
An architect, member of the American Institute of Architects, who has been a practicing architect for 20 years and has been responsible for the production of construction documents for numerous steel-framed and fire-protected buildings for uses in many different areas, including education, civic, rapid transit and industrial use (Richard Gage) disputes the claim that fire and airplane damage brought down the World Trade Centers and believes there is strong evidence of controlled demolition (many other architects who question 9/11 are listed here)
LEGAL SCHOLARS
Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer, and currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services (John Loftus) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Former Inspector General, U.S. Department of Transportation; former Professor of Aviation, Dept. of Aerospace Engineering and Aviation and Professor of Public Policy, Ohio State University (Mary Schiavo) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign; a leading practitioner and advocate of international law; responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention; served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court, with a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University (Dr. Francis Boyle) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Former prosecutor in the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section of the U.S. Justice Department and a key member of Attorney General Bobby Kennedy’s anti-corruption task force; former assistant U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois (J. Terrence "Terry" Brunner) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Professor Emeritus, International Law, Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University; in 2001 served on the three-person UN Commission on Human Rights for the Palestine Territories, and previously, on the Independent International Commission on Kosovo (Richard Falk) questions the government's version of 9/11., and asks whether the Neocons were behind 9/11.
Bessie Dutton Murray Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and Director, Center for Human Rights, University of Iowa; Fellow, World Academy of Art and Science. Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American Journal of International Law (Burns H. Weston) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Former president of the National Lawyers Guild (C. Peter Erlinder), who signed a petition calling for a real investigation into 9/11. And see petition.
Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University; associate General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents; Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations; former Federal Sky Marshall; 27-year U.S. Customs career (Mark Conrad) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Professor of Law, University of Freiburg; former Minister of Justice of West Germany (Horst Ehmke) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Director of Academic Programs, Institute for Policy and Economic Development, University of Texas, El Paso, specializing in executive branch secrecy policy, governmental abuse, and law and bureaucracy; former U.S. Army Signals Intelligence officer; author of several books on law and political theory (Dr. William G. Weaver) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Famed trial attorney (Gerry Spence) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Former Instructor of Criminal Trial Practice, Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California at Berkeley 11-year teaching career. Retired Chief Assistant Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California 31-year career (William Veale) said:
"When you grow up in the United States, there are some bedrock principles that require concerted effort to discard. One is the simplest: that our leaders are good and decent people whose efforts may occasionally warrant criticism but never because of malice or venality... But one grows up. ... And with the lawyer's training comes the reliance on evidence and the facts that persuade... After a lot of reading, thought, study, and commiseration, I have come to the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were, in their essence, an inside job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U S government."
FAMILY MEMBERS AND HEROIC FIRST RESPONDERS
A common criticism of those who question 9/11 is that they are being "disrespectful to the victims and their families".
However, half of the victim's families believe that 9/11 was an inside job (according to the head of the largest 9/11 family group, Bill Doyle) (and listen to this interview). Many family and friends of victims not only support the search for 9/11 truth, but they demand it (please ignore the partisan tone). See also this interview.
Indeed, it has now become so clear that the 9/11 Commission was a whitewash that the same 9/11 widows who called for the creation of the 9/11 Commission are now demanding a NEW investigation (see also this video).
And dying heroes, soon-to-be victims themselves, the first responders who worked tirelessly to save lives on and after 9/11, say that controlled demolition brought down the Twin Towers and that a real investigation is necessary.
PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS
Finally, those who attack people who question the government's version of 9/11 as "crazy" may wish to review the list of mental health professionals who have concluded that the official version of 9/11 is false:
Psychiatrist Carol S. Wolman, MD
Psychiatrist E. Martin Schotz
Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Duke University Medical Center, as well as Radiology, at Duke University Medical Center D. Lawrence Burk, Jr., MD
Board of Governors Distinguished Service Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of the Graduate School at Ruters University Barry R. Komisaruk
Professor of Psychology at University of New Hampshire William Woodward
Professor of Psychology at University of Essex Philip Cozzolino
Professor of Psychology at Goddard College Catherine Lowther
Professor Emeritus of Psychology at California Institute of Integral Studies Ralph Metzner
Professor of Psychology at Rhodes University Mike Earl-Taylor
Retired Professor of Psychology at Oxford University Graham Harris
Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Nebraska and licensed Psychologist Ronald Feintech
Ph.D. Clinical Neuropsychologist Richard Welser
THOUSANDS OF OTHERS
The roster above is only a sample. There are too many Ph.D. scientists and engineers, architects, military and intelligence officials, politicians, legal scholars and other highly-credible people who question 9/11 -- literally thousands -- to list in one place. Here are a few additional people to consider:
The former director of the FBI (Louis Freeh) says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission
Former air traffic controller, who knows the flight corridor which the two planes which hit the Twin Towers flew "like the back of my hand" and who handled two actual hijackings (Robin Hordon) says that 9/11 could not have occurred as the government says, and that planes can be tracked on radar even when their transponders are turned off (also, listen to this interview)
Perhaps "the premiere collapse expert in the country", who 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer referred to as a "very, very respected expert on building collapse", the head of the New York Fire Department's Special Operations Command and the most highly decorated firefighter in its NYFD history, who had previously "commanded rescue operations at many difficult and complex disasters, including the Oklahoma City Bombing, the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, and many natural disasters worldwide" thought that the collapse of the South Tower was caused by bombs, because the collapse of the building was too even to have been caused by anything else (pages 5-6).
Former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter (Morton Goulder), former former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism (Edward L. Peck), and former US Department of State Foreign Service Officer (J. Michael Springmann), as well as a who's who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new investigation into 9/11
Former FBI agent (Robert Wright) says "The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred."
Former FBI translator, who the Department of Justice's Inspector General and several senators have called extremely credible (free subscription required) (Sibel Edmonds), said "If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up". She also is leaning towards the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job. Some of her allegations have been confirmed in the British press.
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Excelente documentário da BBC sobre a Operação Gládio:
Operation Gladio Ep 1of3 1-5 State Sponsored Terrorism in Europe 1992 - BBC Timewatch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Likd23FgM
Excelente documentário da BBC sobre a Operação Gládio:
Operation Gladio Ep 1of3 1-5 State Sponsored Terrorism in Europe 1992 - BBC Timewatch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Likd23FgM
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Este procedimento não é aceitável (eu pedi para manteres um tópico, não pedi para abrir um novo e muito menos nestes moldes).
Naturalmente o romeu59 tem dificuldades em perceber o que é estar num espaço de debate como o Caldeirão.
O post original deste tópico terá de ser substituido por links para os tópicos anteriores que substitui e as repetições eliminadas. E não servir de repositório para o que romeu59 pretende, escondendo o debate que os próprios tópicos suscitaram. A partir daí, para além dos links, ele poderá colocar "novidades" (em relação ao que já postou antes).
Já o informei do mesmo por mensagem privada...
Isto não é um blog e muito menos o blog do romeu59.
Se tiver dificuldade, eu forneço os links dos 7 tópicos que ele manteve nos últimos dias!
Já não bastava os outros sete, agora tinhamos um oitavo tópico com tudo repetido e onde já nem debate existe. Enfim, há coisas que acima de tudo se resumem ao bom senso e respeito pelos outros...
Naturalmente o romeu59 tem dificuldades em perceber o que é estar num espaço de debate como o Caldeirão.
O post original deste tópico terá de ser substituido por links para os tópicos anteriores que substitui e as repetições eliminadas. E não servir de repositório para o que romeu59 pretende, escondendo o debate que os próprios tópicos suscitaram. A partir daí, para além dos links, ele poderá colocar "novidades" (em relação ao que já postou antes).
Já o informei do mesmo por mensagem privada...
Isto não é um blog e muito menos o blog do romeu59.
Se tiver dificuldade, eu forneço os links dos 7 tópicos que ele manteve nos últimos dias!
Já não bastava os outros sete, agora tinhamos um oitavo tópico com tudo repetido e onde já nem debate existe. Enfim, há coisas que acima de tudo se resumem ao bom senso e respeito pelos outros...
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1. Mais vale perder um ganho que ganhar uma perda, a menos que se cumpra a Segunda Lei.
2. A expectativa de ganho deve superar a expectativa de perda, onde a expectativa mede a
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3. A Primeira Lei não é mesmo necessária mas com Três Leis isto fica definitivamente mais giro.
Camarada!
venho aqui apresentar-lhe um site que o vai fazer perder o sono tanto é o assunto para desbravar.
http://www.realidadeoculta.com/index2010.html
hasta
Hoje pareceu-me ver o Elvis a passear acompanhado por alguem muito mas mesmo muito parecido com a Diana.Sabes algo sobre isto?
venho aqui apresentar-lhe um site que o vai fazer perder o sono tanto é o assunto para desbravar.
http://www.realidadeoculta.com/index2010.html
hasta
Hoje pareceu-me ver o Elvis a passear acompanhado por alguem muito mas mesmo muito parecido com a Diana.Sabes algo sobre isto?
"Não perguntes a um escravo se quer ser livre".Samora Machel
off-topic: Assuntos muito interessantes e incómodos
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