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Aqui está um bom donativo de todos nós.

Greece Gets A Pledge Of 61 Billion Dollars
http://inewp.com/?p=2537

Austerity measures had shaken the Greek public, riots broke out and crys against the “plutocracy” of Greece were being championed mostly in the Greek capital of Athens by two million people angrily protesting against the public budget slashes and for many, getting rid of pension and future funds along with “necessary” monetary aspects of their lives such as social programs and wages. The series of austerity measures have lowered the Greek standard of living.


The Greek government has, admirably, stood irate despite the riots as police had barely fought off the protestors and insisted that in cooperation with the European Union it had to cut down the national deficit which was startingly soaring above the EU’s bar of a 10% deficit.


The Greek government owes a total of some-50 billion euros. The Panhellenic Socialist Movement along with Prime Minister Papandreou has faced public criticism from his own people yet was applauded by a few EU members for sticking with the tough measures.

European governments after considering Greece’s financial situation agreed to offer a standby package of nearly 61 billion USD or 45 billion Euros at below-market interest rates, six times bigger than your average world donation of 10 billion USD for Haiti.

Greece has politely refused to use this large sum to help itself but grudgingly admitted that it may need the presence of both the package and presence of the European Union to calm investors down after there were talks of a long-term financial crisis hitting Greece and the sort.

While the package has helped Greece slightly, it has started to aid the currency of the euro considerably. The euro rose 1.2 percent to $1.3674 and is expected to rise to $1.3724.

This package is particularly unpopular in Germany as most of the public is against for ‘bailing’ out Greece, the people in the country are already bitter about having to fight a “war” over in Afghanistan. Greece is described to have been a front for the euro as the EU is determined to uphold the euro through its first dark trial since the adoption of the currency in 1999.

Additionally, the International Monetary Fund declared that Greece and other countries in similar finacial situation may face a period of up to 20 years of ‘extreme’ budget difficulty.

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A ser verdade, nao ha nada de novo na iniciativa que se resume a pedir ajuda anonima desinteressada.

As familias fazem o mesmo quando estao em crise e nao querem vender as joias da avo; as comunidades/aldeais ja o fazem a centenas de anos; paises tambem. Em 1997 a Tailandia pediu aos Thais para entregarem o ouro ao governo, para entao o governo poder comprar a moeda local que estava a cair a toda a velocidade.

As opcoes da Grecia hoje em dia sao tres:

1 Reduzir os gastos, como por exemplo:

- Aumentar a idade para se ir para a reforma
- Reduzir os salarios dos empregados do estado
- Reduzir as reformas para % mais baixas e impor limites maximos para as mesmas

2 Pedir ajuda a tudo e a todos, por exemplo:

- IMF
- EU
- Cidadaos

3 Vender as joias da familia, por exemplo:

- Arte e monumentos
- Empresas do estado
- Ilhas (que podem ser alugadas a 99 anos...)

Provavelmente a solucao e um pouco de tudo o que esta acima.

CN

PS - A crise Grega e provavelmente apenas a primeira de uma serie de crises a aparecer na Civilizacao Ocidental. Hoje, sem colonias e pouco technology hedge, ja nao e possivel:

irmos para a reforma mais cedo que o resto do mundo,
termos reformas mais altas do que no resto do mundo,
ter seguranca social para quando algo corre mal,
despesas medicas quase todas pagas,
e tudo isto com um bom nivel de vida.

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Want to help Greece? There’s an account for that.

link: http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2010/04 ... -for-that/


Now you too can help support the Greek economy.

The National Bank of Greece — which is not, by the way, the central bank of the Hellenic Republic — is encouraging visitors to its website to “deposit money into the ‘Solidarity Account’ for the nation’s public debt”.

If you’re interested in helping repay the country’s public debt, which stood at around 109 per cent of GDP in 2009, the bank provided a handy how-to:

National Bank of Greece is playing its part in supporting the Greek economy at this critical time. Accordingly, it now provides members of the public with the opportunity, should they so wish, to deposit money into the “Solidarity Account” that has been set up to help pay off the nation’s public debt.

Deposits can be made into the following account: 040/541599-36 free of charge by: visiting any of our branches, using our alternative transaction services, available around the clock:
- Internet Banking (*), selecting the option “Remittance to NBG Account”.
- Phone Banking (*), simply by calling 181818 and saying the word “Agent”.
- NBG network ATMs, under the main menu title “Fund transfers–remittances”, and specific transaction title “To a third-party NBG account”,

- making a wire transfer, with the following details: IBAN: GR8801100400000004054159936 SWIFT / BIC: ETHNGRAA Charges instructions: SHA or BEN Full name of sender

The monies deposited into this account will be transferred on a daily basis into the special Solidarity Account held with the Bank of Greece for this purpose.

(*) To use these services you need to be a signed-up Internet and/or Phone Banking user.

What are you waiting for?

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A mim continua-me a surpreender as formas de chulismo que este e outros governos arranjam para sacar dinheiro aos incautos.

É mesmo caso para dizer 'Gandas Xulos' ide comer Me...!

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Paying Down The National Debt: Your Donation Gladly Accepted

link:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/04/ ... f=93559255

By Jacob Goldstein

Greece is in big trouble. But you can help!

The National Bank of Greece has set up a "Solidarity Account" that will be used to pay down the country's debt. Make your deposit (free of charge!) by Internet, phone, or wire transfer to account number 040/541599-36

Or, if you'd prefer to help the U.S. pay its own public debt, the Treasury would be glad to take your money. They've set up a convenient online form to make it easy.

"Welcome to the United States Treasury's site for making donations to help reduce the public debt," the form says. "If you would like to make a donation, please fill in the required fields and click the Submit Data button when completed."