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[rasteiro]

Estava a ver que ia levar porrada da grossa, mas....
Tinha lá deixado uma ordem ontem a 10.05, e hoje foi o que se viu, com ela a desçer, mas contive-me, e não vendi.
Consegui agora mesmo a 10.30, UFA.....



Abraços

[acintra]

Mais bonus a pagar aos que a fizeram ir ao fundo. Continua a boa gestão e não tarda que o estado americano dê um murro na mesa e manda tudo para o galheiro. Hoje acho que vai fazer novos minimos devido a não existir nenhuma noticia positiva, pelo contrário.

On Thursday July 9, 2009, 11:19 pm EDT

Companies:American international group, inc.
WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - American International Group (NYSE:AIG - News) is preparing to pay next week millions of dollars more in bonuses to dozens of corporate executives, a source familiar with the development said.


AIG has been talking with Washington's newly-appointed compensation czar Kenneth Feinberg about the bonuses, which are due to be paid on July 15, said the source.

The company is reviewing its compensation plans with Washington as it tries to avoid the national furor set off by $165 million in retention bonuses paid to employees of a financial products unit in March. Much of AIG's $99 billion in losses last year stemmed from derivatives written by that unit.

Feinberg was appointed last month to oversee the compensation of top executives at seven firms that have received large federal bailouts.

The firms must convince Feinberg "they have struck the right balance to discourage excessive risk taking and reward performance for their top executives," Treasury spokesman Andrew Williams said in a statement, responding to AIG's pending bonus payments.

"That process is just beginning now, and Feinberg has begun consulting with those firms about their compensation plans," the statement said, adding the Treasury will not "provide a running commentary on that process."

AIG, which declined to comment, has received more than $80 billion in federal loans in successive bailouts since its near-collapse last September. In total, U.S. taxpayer aid of up to $180 billion has been extended to the insurer that once claimed global dominance.

The payments AIG is set to make next week were previously disclosed. About 40 senior managers were awarded some $9 million in performance bonuses for 2008 but payments were to be partly staggered throughout 2009, and contingent on certain targets related to AIG's restructuring.

AIG is in the midst of reducing liabilities at its financial products unit, and selling or spinning off some of its prized insurance operations in a bid to repay taxpayers.

In total, AIG last year agreed to pay in excess of $1 billion in retention payments and performance bonuses to employees across the organization, including to the financial products employees.

Some financial products executives agreed to return their bonuses in full or in part after the payments spurned anger across the nation.

(Reporting by Joanne Allen and David Lawder in Washington, and Lilla Zuill in New York; Editing by Gary Hill and Muralikumar Anantharaman)

[salvadorveiga]

Acintra boas... então se entendes que tem mais margem para descer, neste momento qual é que achas que é o preço "justo" da ação?

Um abraço

0 !

[acintra]

Caminha a passos largos para chegar a minimos, por volta dos $7, e fazer minimos novos. Acho que não vai resisitir e ou estado compra os restantes 20% ou faz como a GM.

[Brunobras]

Ai ai! Queria entrar novamente mas... Acho que estou comprador a 0,01... hehehe

Agora serio, rasteiro ja nao falta muito para te acompanhar no papel. Vamos ver o dia de hoje como corre...


Um abraço

[acintra]

AIG 10.31, -2.79, -21.30%) slumped more than 20% Thursday after Citigroup analyst Joshua Shanker said there's a strong chance that the troubled insurer's common stock goes to zero. "Our valuation includes a 70% chance that the equity at AIG is zero," the analyst wrote in a note to investors late Wednesday. That reflects the risk of further losses on credit-default swaps and the company's increased willingness to sell businesses at low valuations, Shanker explained. "While AIG may be able to pay back [the] U.S. investment as well as some debt with core asset sales, eventually the remaining businesses may be those that generate lower ROEs, handicapped by a high debt burden." AIG shares slumped 21% to $10.32 during morning action Thursday. The stock has lost more than half its value so far this month.

[acintra]

On Thursday July 9, 2009, 9:46 am EDT



Potential markdowns in AIG Financial Product unit's regulatory CDS portfolio may result in collateral calls that would again put pressure on AIG's liquidity, Citigroup said.

"Such collateral calls could also pressure rating agencies to lower their credit ratings for the company, leading to a similar cycle to the one that the company experienced prior to the massive government intervention in the third quarter," Citigroup said.

The brokerage said while AIG may be able to repay U.S. investment and some debt with core asset sales, the remaining businesses may be those that generate lower return on equity, handicapped by a high debt burden.

Citigroup said despite AIG's efforts in implementing the action plan devised in concurrence with the U.S. government, the uncertainty and risk surrounding AIG remain very real, and, in some ways, more urgent.

Once the world's largest insurer by market value, AIG nearly collapsed last year because of losses from CDS, a bet on the credit worthiness of a debt issuer. The company is now selling assets to repay the government after a bailout totaling about $180 billion.

The brokerage cut its price target on AIG stock to $14 from $36 to adjust for a 1-for-20 reverse stock split by the troubled insurer, and kept a "hold" rating.

Shares of the company were down 4 percent at $12.57 Thursday in trading before the bell. The stock closed at $13.10 Wednesday on the New York Stock Exchange. (Reporting by Supantha Mukherjee in Bangalore; Editing by Himani Sarkar)

[rasteiro]

Já foram a 10.45.
Já estou comprador novamente a 10.05

Abraços

Como tinha dito que entraria na casa dos 10 a 11Dollares, ai estão elas, a 10.30.
Agora é esperar e ver o que isto vai dar.
Entrei com uma pequena posição, para não me aleijar muito.


Abraços

[rasteiro]

Como tinha dito que entraria na casa dos 10 a 11Dollares, ai estão elas, a 10.30.
Agora é esperar e ver o que isto vai dar.
Entrei com uma pequena posição, para não me aleijar muito.


Abraços

[Brunobras]

Ninguem apostou e ainda bem se não lerpava como cão do miguel!!! Foi um vento que se lhe deu... Mas eu vou voltar a ela (assim espero)!

[Brunobras]

Estou curioso para ver como se porta hoje... Será que o meu stop dos 12,90€ vai disparar? Aceitam-se apostas !


Ps: Depois de ver em sites de apostas, apostas do tipo " será que ronaldo vai casar com paris hilton ate 2014'?, esta aposta não é nada discabida...

[acintra]

Tem de haver sempre compradores, porque senão a acção vai para 0. O que vai na cabeça de cada um não sei, nem interessa. O que interessa é o que vai na nossa cabeça.
Atenção que com a AIG podes ainda perder 80%, 90%...ou até mesmo a totalidade da posição. Existe ainda um risco muito grande de poder ser nacionalizada ou pedir protecção contra credores, Ch. 11, e ser redimensionada como a GM.

Continuo a dizer que a decisão será sempre Tua, isto é apenas o que penso.

[forinha1973]

Caro acintra,

não deixas de ter razão. Mas por vezes perder cerca de 70% do investimento, doi.........
A emocionalidade em detrimento da racionalidade pode ser traiçoeira.
Sem dúvida que esta venda massiva será certamente assente em vários factores. E quem compra, pensará que se trata de uma boa oportunidade? Talvez só os compradores sabem a resposta......
Enfim, quem não erra?
Muito obrigado e
Bons Negócios.

[acintra]

Várias vezes foi mencionado neste forum para não nos apaiuxonarmos pelas acções.
Muitas vezes, e já me aconteceu algumas, mais vale vender a perder e se mais tarde podermos comprar mais baixo e no caso de continuar a acreditar na empresa.

Neste momento o que é que vês na AIG? Eu só vejo venda de unidades abaixo do seu real valor porque precisa de dinheiro urgentemente, comentários que o reverse split foi o "kiss of death", perdeu no tribunal a ideminização que pretendia...Até hoje ainda não houve qualquer noticia positiva.

Mas, como sempre, a decisão será sempre Tua.

[forinha1973]

Meus Caros,

continuo dentro e apesar de vários conselhos (por exemplo Bean_Jr, do qual agradeço, entre outros) começo a ficar um pouco assustado. Tenho tentado manter a tranquilidade, porque por vezes, e já fui vitima disso, o panico é um enorme inimigo.
Aos mais conhecedores, que Vos parece o desenrolar da AIG?
Que poderá vir a acontecer?

Desde já,
Muito Obrigado

[Dilson Costa]

AIG Loses Trial Seeking $4.3 Billion From Starr

A federal jury rejected claims by American International Group Inc. that a private company run by its former chief executive officer, Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, looted $4.3 billion in stock from the insurer.

Greenberg’s firm, Starr International Co., or SICO, didn’t breach a trust to hold AIG shares solely for an AIG deferred- compensation plan, a jury in federal court in New York ruled today. The panel also rejected AIG’s claim that SICO illegally converted $4.3 billion in those shares after Greenberg’s ouster in March 2005 amid an accounting scandal.

U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff could still reverse the verdict, which he deemed advisory. He promised to make his own ruling on the breach of trust claim by next month. AIG had said it would use proceeds of any judgment to help repay a $182.5 billion bailout package it received from the federal government.

“I’m disappointed in the verdict,” said AIG attorney Ted Wells.

AIG claimed an oral trust was created in 1970 solely for AIG’s benefit, and SICO breached it in 2005 to retaliate for Greenberg’s firing. Greenberg, 84, testified for seven days and denied the trust claimed by AIG, which he built into the world’s largest insurer before its near-collapse last year.

“The supposed trust that was for the benefit solely of AIG, created by AIG, is simply a trust that doesn’t exist,” SICO attorney David Boies said in closing arguments.

AIG Shares

Greenberg had testified that SICO donated AIG shares through its generosity during a 1970 corporate reorganization, that it could use them as it saw fit, and that they ultimately benefited charity, not AIG.

The panel of seven women and one man rejected arguments by Wells that Greenberg lied repeatedly in testimony and that SICO fabricated documents. Wells said Greenberg spoke the truth in videotaped speeches to employees, including one when he said SICO held shares in trust for their retirement for “a couple of hundred years.”

On the witness stand, Greenberg said he was exaggerating, was trying to build morale, and was not speaking in a legal sense. Wells said Greenberg lied on that and many other points.

“These are not small lies, these are big lies,” Wells said in his summation. Greenberg, he said, displayed “a certain arrogance, almost, and I can just say anything. I can walk through the raindrops and not be touched. A certain arrogance, almost an audacity of arrogance.”

‘Unequivocal Evidence’

AIG had to prove its breach of trust claim by “unequivocal evidence,” a higher legal standard than the usual preponderance of evidence.

SICO got shares initially valued at $110 million that later grew to more than $20 billion in value. Over time, SICO used 7 percent of its assets to fund a series of two-year deferred- compensation plans. AIG claims SICO sold $4.3 billion in shares after 2005 and used those proceeds to fund investments in China, Russia and elsewhere.

Wells argued that Greenberg retaliated against AIG after his termination by ousting AIG employees on the SICO board, revoking the deferred-compensation plan, and rescinding previous written commitments. A day after the litigation began, Greenberg ordered the transfer of AIG stock certificates from New York to Bermuda, Wells said.

No AIG employee testified about the existence of the alleged trust, Boies argued. Also, the company never disclosed the existence of the trust to its shareholders, auditors, attorneys or regulators. The trust, he said, was a creation of AIG lawyers after SICO sued the company in 2005 and AIG filed a countersuit.


Fonte: Bloomberg.com

[acintra]

AIG stock continues falling after insurer does reverse stock split, warns of possible losses
By Ieva M. Augstums, AP Business Writer
On Tuesday July 7, 2009, 2:01 pm EDT


Companies:American international group, inc.
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- American International Group Inc. shares continued to plummet Tuesday, one week after the company approved a reverse stock split and as jury deliberations began in a $4.3 billion trial against its former CEO.



Last week, shares of the New York-based insurance giant went into free fall after a 1-for-20 reverse stock split was approved at the company's annual shareholders meeting on June 30. Shares of AIG closed at $1.16 that day, which is equivalent to $23.20 assuming the reverse split.

"There's not a lot to get excited about with this stock," said Len Blum, managing partner at investment bank Westwood Capital. "The stock was a little bit overbought and investors are expecting to see more losses."

AIG split the stock after the company plunged more than 90 percent over the past year, saying that a higher price may attract institutional investors who wouldn't typically buy shares that trade for less than $5.

But that has proven difficult, as AIG disclosed in a regulatory filing last week that it could face additional losses on credit default swaps remaining on its books.

As of March 31, AIG had about $192.6 billion outstanding of the swaps, which were primarily written for European financial institutions. Continued declines in the value of the contracts could have a "material adverse effect" on the insurer's financial results, according to the filing submitted to the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Credit default swaps are essentially insurance contracts protecting an investor against default on an underlying investment, such as mortgage-backed securities. Underwriting of the risky contacts were at the heart of AIG's near collapse last fall when it took an initial $85 billion bailout from the government to remain in business

AIG has since received additional loan packages from the government, which now total $182.5 billion. The government has received an 80 percent stake in the insurer as part of the loan package.

The swaps remaining in AIG's portfolio consist mostly of protection against default on underlying corporate loans and residential mortgages. As the value of those underlying loans and mortgages fall or they default, the value of the swaps would decline as well. That would force AIG to take unrealized losses on its portfolio.

AIG is in the process of shedding assets and spinning off some of its subsidiaries in an effort to repay the government and return to profitability.

It is also hoping to use proceeds from a multibillion trial in which AIG has accused former CEO Maurice "Hank" Greenberg, through a company called Starr International that he controls, of plundering an AIG retirement program composed of $4.3 billion in stock in 2005. The questions being raised during the civil trial in federal court in Manhattan boil down to who controlled the fund, and what its purpose was.

Blum said the trial has little, if anything, do with Tuesday's stock drop.

If Greenberg's company is found liable, "I would think that would be good for AIG," he said.

[acintra]

Sinceramente não sei e até pode acontecer ser nacionalizada ou recorrer ao Ch. 11.
O estado tem 80% e não vai querer aguentar o "submarino" muito mais. Os minimos equivalem agora a $7, acho que até pode fazer novos minimos.

[Brunobras]

Acintra boas... então se entendes que tem mais margem para descer, neste momento qual é que achas que é o preço "justo" da ação?

Um abraço

[acintra]

Pelo andar da carruagem vais comprar daqui a dias... Lá vai ela em -15%. EU acho que ainda compro primeiro, vamos ver como se desenrola o dia de hoje. É que não há noticias para isto. Mas não devem demorar a sair...

Olha que eu acho que existem noticias,mais que sufucientes para a fazer cair como está e para prolongar as quedas.
Estão a vender diversas unidades, em vários pontos do mundo e a preço de saldo, de forma a pagar os 185 biliões com que o estado entrou. As propostas são sempre muito inferiores ao real valor das empresas, mas com esta crise todos se aproveitam de quem está aflito.
Vão os aneis, ficam os dedos.

[Brunobras]

Entrei agora a 13,90usd mas com um stop bem apertadinho!!!

[Brunobras]

Pelo andar da carruagem vais comprar daqui a dias... Lá vai ela em -15%. EU acho que ainda compro primeiro, vamos ver como se desenrola o dia de hoje. É que não há noticias para isto. Mas não devem demorar a sair...

[rasteiro]

ando maluquinho para entrar, mas que doi ver a cotação ao preço que está ai isso doi.
Que esteja dentro a 1.30, está a perder -50%, ou seja ela já anda por volta dos 0.65.
Não vejo uma explicação para isto, mas o minimo dela foi nos 0.38, que pelo preço novo anda na casa dos 8.00.
Agora se ela vai lá outra vez é que eu não sei, mas entre os 10.00 e os 11.00, estou comprador.


Abraços

Alguém pode explicar o que se passa com esta cotada? -11% ontem... hoje já vai em -8%!!! Queria entrar mas...

[Brunobras]

Alguém pode explicar o que se passa com esta cotada? -11% ontem... hoje já vai em -8%!!! Queria entrar mas...

[Bean_Jr]

forinha1973,

Queria apenas partilhar um dos pontos que o Ulisses tem falado nos vídeos, assumir o erro.

Já o assumi algumas vezes com sucesso, em que o valor continuou a descer e outras vezes no momento errado porque subiu no dia seguinte.

O que faço para tomar a decisão é abstrair-me do dinheiro investido e analisar a “cru” o que acredito que vai acontecer.

É sempre uma decisão difícil para um investidor, mas é preferível perder 1000 do que perder 5000.