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Boa tarde
Infelizmente não tive acesso a net esta manhã pois já tinha ideia de adquirir uns puts mas... E PODEM CHAMAR-ME MALUCO... Ja entrei agora em CALL até ao final da semana!!!
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Infelizmente não tive acesso a net esta manhã pois já tinha ideia de adquirir uns puts mas... E PODEM CHAMAR-ME MALUCO... Ja entrei agora em CALL até ao final da semana!!!
N100 1578
DAX 5840
Vende ao som dos tambores e compra ao som dos canhões...
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Re: Malandros
tarzan tchetcheno Escreveu:Onorio Escreveu:Olha a malta dos puts a encher a carteira....
Malandros, onde é que já se viu estar tudo contente com o holocausto...
Quem não deve estar contente é o gajo do SEC que proibiu o short selling
Então não é que ainda cai com mais vigor
Ele há cada ignorante neste mundo
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Malandros
Onorio Escreveu:Olha a malta dos puts a encher a carteira....
Malandros, onde é que já se viu estar tudo contente com o holocausto...
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Quantos são quantos são?:mrgreen:Onorio Escreveu:Olha a malta dos puts a encher a carteira....
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Apesar desta queda violenta que já estava à espera, desde á uma semana, penso que devemos estar no fim delas (só falta uma onda). Se tal não acontecer será muito mau para os touros
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Boa noite,
vejo-te muito euforico e a espera do ovo no x da galinha.
Acho que há muita gente a espera que este plano americano seja aprovado, mas apesar de dizerem que vai ser aprovado, a votacao ainda falta. E o mercado nao gosto de incerteza.
Daí pensar que amanha vai ser mais um dia de quedas fortes.
O mais engracado é que reparei há pouco nos futuros nos EUA e o Nasdaq estava positivo mas já se encontra bem negativo, tal como o S&P.
Quando a minha estrategia para amanha, se o mercado abrir em alta (devido ao fecho dos EUA na Sexta-Feira) é abrir logo de seguida posicoes curtas sobre o DAX.
Quando estivermos perto da abertura dos mercados americanos, depois ve-se.
Qq desvio a esta estrategia, leva-me a ficar de fora.
vejo-te muito euforico e a espera do ovo no x da galinha.
Acho que há muita gente a espera que este plano americano seja aprovado, mas apesar de dizerem que vai ser aprovado, a votacao ainda falta. E o mercado nao gosto de incerteza.
Daí pensar que amanha vai ser mais um dia de quedas fortes.
O mais engracado é que reparei há pouco nos futuros nos EUA e o Nasdaq estava positivo mas já se encontra bem negativo, tal como o S&P.
Quando a minha estrategia para amanha, se o mercado abrir em alta (devido ao fecho dos EUA na Sexta-Feira) é abrir logo de seguida posicoes curtas sobre o DAX.
Quando estivermos perto da abertura dos mercados americanos, depois ve-se.
Qq desvio a esta estrategia, leva-me a ficar de fora.
Cumprimentos,
Alex Tomás
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Acredito que sim
mnfv Escreveu:será que vamos ter um sell on the news?
Vai ser um sell the put's on the news. Só espero que seja fortíssimo...
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Bloomberg
Sept. 28 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. lawmakers are reviewing a tentative agreement to revive credit markets by authorizing a $700 billion plan to buy troubled assets from financial institutions.
``The deal is done,'' Senator Judd Gregg, a New Hampshire Republican, a ranking member of the Budget Committee, said this morning. The House and Senate may vote tomorrow, Gregg said.
Still, Republican House members are waiting to see the compromise proposal written into legislation before making a final decision to support it, said Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia.
``We're waiting to see what this looks like on paper to see if we have an agreement,'' Cantor said.
The negotiations were completed about midnight when lawmakers agreed to require the president to offer a plan to recoup any loss to the taxpayers after five years, said a Democratic congressional aide. That clause was intended to address concerns about the cost of the program.
The agreement alters the Bush administration's original request for unchecked authority to purchase distressed debt securities from financial companies reeling from the record number of home foreclosures. That plan evoked a blizzard of emails and phone calls from voters outraged at being asked to foot the bill for the mistakes of Wall Street investors.
Initial Cost
During weeklong negotiations, lawmakers reduced the initial cost by half to $350 billion, with the remainder to be authorized later, and they added provisions creating an oversight structure and help to homeowners facing foreclosure.
The compromise also includes a proposal by House Republicans, whose objections scuttled an earlier agreement in principle, that provides for government insurance for mortgage- backed securities. The plan also imposes limits on the compensation of executives at participating companies.
``It will be the first time in American history that there will be legislative restrictions on CEO compensation,'' said House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, Democrat of Massachusetts.
Lawmakers want to announce a firm agreement before Asian financial markets open late today, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said. The deadline reflects concern that markets will be further rocked by lack of an agreement after the Standard & Poor's 500 index recorded its largest weekly drop since May.
Treasury Secretary Paulson last night said the proposed deal ``will work and be effective.'' More work needs to be done, ``but I think we're there,'' he said.
Government Bailouts
Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke proposed the plan after the collapse and bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holding Inc. and the Federal Reserve's takeover of American International Group Inc. earlier this month. They said it was needed to revive lending and restore the flow of credit to the U.S. economy.
President George W. Bush warned yesterday that legislative action was needed to avoid a ``deep and painful recession.''
Bush spokesman Tony Fratto said early this morning that administration officials are ``pleased with the progress tonight and appreciate the bipartisan effort to stabilize our financial markets and protect our economy.'' He said Bush had spoken last night with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on the negotiations.
The proposal immediately provides $250 billion, and another $100 billion could be used at the request of the president. Congress would have to review the expenditure of the remaining $350 billion, according to an outline distributed to reporters.
The package includes a provision aimed at ``preventing golden parachutes'' for executives of companies who leave firms that have sold troubled assets to the government, said Senator Kent Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat.
Stock Warrants
Companies that sell debt to the government will issue stock warrants to the government so that taxpayers ``can gain as companies recover'' from economic difficulties, Conrad said.
House Republicans initially balked at the cost of Paulson's plan. Missouri Representative Roy Blunt, the lead negotiator for House Republicans, said his colleagues wanted to ``bring both free-market principles and taxpayer protections to the table.''
``I think we will be able to have an announcement'' later today, Blunt said.
Republican leadership aides said that provisions favored by unions that own significant stakes in companies through pension plans were dropped. That includes a requirement for shareholder votes on executive-compensation issues.
At one point during the negotiations, billionaire Warren Buffett spoke by telephone to a lawmaker involved in the talks to offer ``his best thinking about market reaction to various things,'' said Conrad. ``People are trying to reach out to the best minds that they know.''
Obama, McCain Support
Presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain backed the compromise.
``My inclination is to support it,'' Obama, a Democrat, said on CBS' ``Face the Nation.''
Obama said the agreement reflects his core concerns by putting limits on executive compensation, providing congressional oversight and protecting taxpayers.
McCain urged lawmakers to ``swallow hard'' and support the proposal in an interview today on ABC's ``This Week'' program.
``Let's get this deal done, signed by the president, get moving,'' McCain, a Republican, said. ``It's going to restore confidence and get some credit out there, get this economic system moving again, which is basically in gridlock today.''
To contact the reporters on this story: James Rowley in Washington at jarowley@bloomberg.netAlison Vekshin in Washington at avekshin@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: September 28, 2008 13:02 EDT
``The deal is done,'' Senator Judd Gregg, a New Hampshire Republican, a ranking member of the Budget Committee, said this morning. The House and Senate may vote tomorrow, Gregg said.
Still, Republican House members are waiting to see the compromise proposal written into legislation before making a final decision to support it, said Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia.
``We're waiting to see what this looks like on paper to see if we have an agreement,'' Cantor said.
The negotiations were completed about midnight when lawmakers agreed to require the president to offer a plan to recoup any loss to the taxpayers after five years, said a Democratic congressional aide. That clause was intended to address concerns about the cost of the program.
The agreement alters the Bush administration's original request for unchecked authority to purchase distressed debt securities from financial companies reeling from the record number of home foreclosures. That plan evoked a blizzard of emails and phone calls from voters outraged at being asked to foot the bill for the mistakes of Wall Street investors.
Initial Cost
During weeklong negotiations, lawmakers reduced the initial cost by half to $350 billion, with the remainder to be authorized later, and they added provisions creating an oversight structure and help to homeowners facing foreclosure.
The compromise also includes a proposal by House Republicans, whose objections scuttled an earlier agreement in principle, that provides for government insurance for mortgage- backed securities. The plan also imposes limits on the compensation of executives at participating companies.
``It will be the first time in American history that there will be legislative restrictions on CEO compensation,'' said House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, Democrat of Massachusetts.
Lawmakers want to announce a firm agreement before Asian financial markets open late today, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said. The deadline reflects concern that markets will be further rocked by lack of an agreement after the Standard & Poor's 500 index recorded its largest weekly drop since May.
Treasury Secretary Paulson last night said the proposed deal ``will work and be effective.'' More work needs to be done, ``but I think we're there,'' he said.
Government Bailouts
Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke proposed the plan after the collapse and bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holding Inc. and the Federal Reserve's takeover of American International Group Inc. earlier this month. They said it was needed to revive lending and restore the flow of credit to the U.S. economy.
President George W. Bush warned yesterday that legislative action was needed to avoid a ``deep and painful recession.''
Bush spokesman Tony Fratto said early this morning that administration officials are ``pleased with the progress tonight and appreciate the bipartisan effort to stabilize our financial markets and protect our economy.'' He said Bush had spoken last night with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on the negotiations.
The proposal immediately provides $250 billion, and another $100 billion could be used at the request of the president. Congress would have to review the expenditure of the remaining $350 billion, according to an outline distributed to reporters.
The package includes a provision aimed at ``preventing golden parachutes'' for executives of companies who leave firms that have sold troubled assets to the government, said Senator Kent Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat.
Stock Warrants
Companies that sell debt to the government will issue stock warrants to the government so that taxpayers ``can gain as companies recover'' from economic difficulties, Conrad said.
House Republicans initially balked at the cost of Paulson's plan. Missouri Representative Roy Blunt, the lead negotiator for House Republicans, said his colleagues wanted to ``bring both free-market principles and taxpayer protections to the table.''
``I think we will be able to have an announcement'' later today, Blunt said.
Republican leadership aides said that provisions favored by unions that own significant stakes in companies through pension plans were dropped. That includes a requirement for shareholder votes on executive-compensation issues.
At one point during the negotiations, billionaire Warren Buffett spoke by telephone to a lawmaker involved in the talks to offer ``his best thinking about market reaction to various things,'' said Conrad. ``People are trying to reach out to the best minds that they know.''
Obama, McCain Support
Presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain backed the compromise.
``My inclination is to support it,'' Obama, a Democrat, said on CBS' ``Face the Nation.''
Obama said the agreement reflects his core concerns by putting limits on executive compensation, providing congressional oversight and protecting taxpayers.
McCain urged lawmakers to ``swallow hard'' and support the proposal in an interview today on ABC's ``This Week'' program.
``Let's get this deal done, signed by the president, get moving,'' McCain, a Republican, said. ``It's going to restore confidence and get some credit out there, get this economic system moving again, which is basically in gridlock today.''
To contact the reporters on this story: James Rowley in Washington at jarowley@bloomberg.netAlison Vekshin in Washington at avekshin@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: September 28, 2008 13:02 EDT
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À Malta que ficou com put's na 6º feira
E que tal a sensação??? Eu fiquei com call's e não estou propriamente descansado, mas gostava de ouvir a malta que está no outro lado da barricada...
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Navete
hoje parece que há um black-out (à FCP) generalizado... tantos projectos 6ª feira para investir os chorudos lucros, depois um certo desprezo pelas notícias dos FF's, depois já um ceto temor de que isto ainda acabava mal quando os futuros dos américas abriram e hoje já a dura realidade de que se calhar 6ª feira tinha sido umbom dia para somar os lucros.
Hoje a dúvida vende-se ou espera-se pelo fim do mini rally... esta dúvida agora poderá estender-se por uns dias as certezas virão depois.
Quem usa stop's se calhar saou-se de boa, os atrasados e apanhados na Bear Trap Global esses já estarão em delírio.
Isto o que vale é que uns dias deliram os put's e noutros dias deliram os call's
O que é preciso é que haja delírio e que o pessoal apanhe o lado certo nem que seja por acaso
Hoje a dúvida vende-se ou espera-se pelo fim do mini rally... esta dúvida agora poderá estender-se por uns dias as certezas virão depois.
Quem usa stop's se calhar saou-se de boa, os atrasados e apanhados na Bear Trap Global esses já estarão em delírio.
Isto o que vale é que uns dias deliram os put's e noutros dias deliram os call's
O que é preciso é que haja delírio e que o pessoal apanhe o lado certo nem que seja por acaso
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Tinhas que ser tu a abrir este tópico!
Tambem acho que amanhã isto ainda pode, ou devia subir mais um bocadinho...
Depois destes dias todos a descer á maluca era obvio que os Mercados teriam de corrigir.
Espero que alem de ser um movimento de correcção, isto não perca a força, o sentido do norte.
Tambem acho que amanhã isto ainda pode, ou devia subir mais um bocadinho...
Depois destes dias todos a descer á maluca era obvio que os Mercados teriam de corrigir.
Espero que alem de ser um movimento de correcção, isto não perca a força, o sentido do norte.
Como diz o cego, a ver vamos...
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Malta dos put's
Isto hoje está de feição para não se fecharem já os put's, o melhor é aguardar para amanhã para o rombo no casco ser bem maior
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