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por Pata-Hari » 29/9/2008 6:35

Excelentes apanhados das questões que eu também tenho em mente! obrigado aos dois!

A questão da liquidez aqui é menos abordada mas o facto é que o mercado está seco e que a manutenção da alavangcagem tem que estar a ser difícil.
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por salvadorveiga » 28/9/2008 23:38

Capitão Nemo Escreveu:O curioso disto é que neste momento os futuros estão nim, nem verdes nem vermelhos... apesar do plano Bush estar perto de ser aprovado.


se calhar o mercado ja contava com isso...e agr nem sobe nada por ai alem... no entato o plano apenas da 350 B de dollars... o resto esta bloqueado pelo Senado...e mesmoa ssim isto vai ter que ir ao Senado terça feira a votos... a ver vamos.
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por Capitão Nemo » 28/9/2008 23:36

O curioso disto é que neste momento os futuros estão nim, nem verdes nem vermelhos... apesar do plano Bush estar perto de ser aprovado.
Cumprimentos,

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Re: Hedge funds collapse?

por LTCM » 28/9/2008 23:19

Onorio Escreveu:The short selling ban has boosted shares of many financial companies, but it's roiling the $2 trillion hedge fund industry.

That's because managers have been left with limited access to one of their most important investment tools. Short sellers, who specialize in betting against shares, along with convertible arbitrage funds and so-called relative value managers have been among the hardest hit, investors said this week.
"If this goes on longer, it will become much more problematic," Bill Ferrell, head of hedge fund investment firm Ferrell Capital Management, said in an interview. "Whenever government intervenes in a free market, you're playing with fire."
Short selling involves borrowing stock and selling it in the hope of buying it back later at a lower price. It's an integral part of most hedge fund strategies because it helps managers generate returns even if markets are falling


in www.marketwatch.com

Artigo completo :

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/hedge-funds-suffer-short-selling/story.aspx?guid=%7BA12A0C0D%2D55FF%2D4576%2D9F2B%2D9D4C9072200E%7D


There’s no relief these days for stock investors, who’ve already seen their portfolios get pounded by the fallout from the now 13-month long credit crisis. Now there’s a new worry for average investors: Bloody Tuesday, which is the deadline for hedge fund investors to put in requests to get their money back by year’s end.

With so many hedge funds—including some very large ones—posting negative returns this year, there’s a big fear that wealthy investors and pension funds are itching to take some money off the table. Many funds limit redemptions to four times a year in order to give managers breathing room to navigate choppy markets. But in order for an investor to qualify, managers generally require investors to submit a request 90 days before the end of the quarter.

Already, the redemption requests have been pouring into hedge funds well ahead of the Sept. 30 deadline. But it’s not uncommon for investors to wait until the last moment to submit a redemption demand. Sources say at some funds investors are seeking to recoup about 10% of their money, which is relatively high. The trouble is that most managers don’t keep too much cash on hand. To comply with their investors wishes, hedge fund managers may have to start selling lots of stocks—a move that could push equity prices even lower in the coming months.

It’s important to note that hedge fund managers don’t need to start selling right away. The 90-day window gives them an opportunity to try and persuade investors to change their minds. If stocks were to rally in the coming weeks, some investors might be convinced to sit tight and keep their money put. But with so much turmoil in the credit markets and uncertainly surrounding the health of the banking industry, a big year-end stock rally looks unlikely.

Right now, things look ugly for hedge funds, which control nearly $2 trillion in assets. The average hedge fund was down 5.8% going into September, which has been another brutal month, according to The Barclay Group, a hedge fund tracking service. The performance is even worse for so-called hedge fund fund-of-funds, which spread investor money between lots of different funds. Through the end of August, the average fund-of-funds was down 6.6%. Sol Waksman, Barclay Group’s president, says this is the worst period for hedge funds he’s ever seen.

A flood of year-end redemptions won’t only mean a tidal wave of selling by hedge funds. It also could lead to outright liquidations and closings of funds. So far, the number of hedge funds that have closed shop isn’t much great than in past years. But many in the industry are bracing for a wave of fund closing, especially smaller funds with under $2 billion in assets. In the current environment, it’s harder for smaller hedge funds to raise money and keep the investors they already have from leaving. Small fund-of-funds also may roll up the carpet.

In short, the next three months could be a blood bath in the hedge fund world.


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por marath » 28/9/2008 14:21

Onorio Escreveu:A subida astronomica foi a semana passada, so vejo duas hipoteses (claro q posso tar a ver mal, é apenas uma opiniao) :

1) Ou o mercado reage mal ao plano, e voltamos as quedas, visto q a euforia inicial se desvaneceu.

2) O mercado acredita q o plano vai ter um impacto significativo e temos uma subida sustentada de algum tempo (semanas)

Abraço


Eu voto no numero 1. É que já estou convencido que vou reforçar SGPS a .25, e ando tambem a pensar reforçar na REN a 2,5. Enfim, daqui a 5 anos a coisa há-de estar melhor. Eu aliás até já vou acreditando que, mesmo com as empresas do PSI quase todas a apresentar lucros, ainda me vão oferecer acções na rua. Tipo compre uma lata de salchichas Modelo, leve 100 acções da SGPS grátis...
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por Onorio » 28/9/2008 14:14

A subida astronomica foi a semana passada, so vejo duas hipoteses (claro q posso tar a ver mal, é apenas uma opiniao) :

1) Ou o mercado reage mal ao plano, e voltamos as quedas, visto q a euforia inicial se desvaneceu.

2) O mercado acredita q o plano vai ter um impacto significativo e temos uma subida sustentada de algum tempo (semanas)

Abraço
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por Tojo » 28/9/2008 13:58

Será que amanhã vamos ter uma subida astonomica nas bolsa internacionais? o acordo está feito
 
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Hedge funds collapse?

por Onorio » 28/9/2008 13:39

The short selling ban has boosted shares of many financial companies, but it's roiling the $2 trillion hedge fund industry.

That's because managers have been left with limited access to one of their most important investment tools. Short sellers, who specialize in betting against shares, along with convertible arbitrage funds and so-called relative value managers have been among the hardest hit, investors said this week.
"If this goes on longer, it will become much more problematic," Bill Ferrell, head of hedge fund investment firm Ferrell Capital Management, said in an interview. "Whenever government intervenes in a free market, you're playing with fire."
Short selling involves borrowing stock and selling it in the hope of buying it back later at a lower price. It's an integral part of most hedge fund strategies because it helps managers generate returns even if markets are falling


in www.marketwatch.com

Artigo completo :

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/hedge-funds-suffer-short-selling/story.aspx?guid=%7BA12A0C0D%2D55FF%2D4576%2D9F2B%2D9D4C9072200E%7D
Editado pela última vez por Onorio em 28/9/2008 14:07, num total de 1 vez.
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