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MarcoAntonio Escreveu:Duplo-topo - presumindo que se está a referir ao duplo-topo como sendo os dois toques nos 15 USD, o duplo-topo simplesmente não existe (enquanto padrão). Tudo está mal nesse padrão para ser um duplo topo...
Se quiser posso explicar mais detalhadamente mas na realidade todo o enquadramento do duplo topo está incorrecto, a figura está completamente fora do contexto.
Portanto, estes gap's são gap's de «validade relativa»...
Relativamente à Nokia em si, não tenho grande opinião porque não a sigo, mas assim muito superficialmente, parece-me que se passar os 15 USD ficará em excelentes condições para uma importante subida.
Estou de acordo (e desculpem se o que vou dizer é disparate): Olhando para a Nokia no mercado europeu, os gaps de que fala o HDW deixam de fazer sentido. Os tais "duplos topo" (que em minha opinião não o chegam a ser) resultam da natural dificuldade em vencer a forte zona de resistência entre os 11 e os 12 euros (mais ou menos).
Última nota: Embora na europa tenha fechado a fazer 11.69 euros nos EUA fechou $14.84=11.89 euros... se não estou em erro!
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homemdoswarrants Escreveu:Caro Marco Antonio
Quanto ao que diz tem razao, mas eu continuou a basear-me fortemente no rsi14 que esta perto de estar sobrecomprado.
Mas esse é também um motivo bastante frágil para abrir shorts num título.
Note inclusivamente no que aconteceu à Nokia de quase todas as vezes (excepto uma mas que não é comparável à actual) em que o RSI se aproximou dos 70pts: a Nokia ainda subiu bastante!
Em Janeiro/Fevereiro foi dos 20 aos 23 já depois de ter entrado em sobrecompra. Em Setembro, entrou em sobrecompra (com a cotação pelos 13 e tal) e isso não impediu que continuasse a subir, encontrando-nos nós agora pelos 15...
O RSI perto de sobrecomprado não é sinal de que se deve shortar, é antes sinal de que para alongar é capaz de já ser algo tarde.
Já agora, o que ainda se poderá vir a formar é uma divergência negativa o que constituíria um alerta bearish mas uma quebra em alta da resistência dos 15 USD pode facilmente desfazer essa divergência (além de que a própria quebra da resistência sería um excelente sinal na minha opinião).
Mas, dado que nos encontramos perto de uma resistência bem definida e embora os sinais em que se esteja a basear me pareçam frágeis, não posso dizer que o trade seja muito arriscado dado que pode sempre stopa-lo caso assista à quebra em alta dos 15 euros e portanto limitar as perdas caso corra mal...
No entanto parece-me importante chamar atenção para estes três aspectos pois as coisas nem sempre são o que parecem e estes três casos: o suposto duplo-topo, os gap's e a questão do RSI e a sobrecompra são três bons exemplos disso mesmo.
FLOP - Fundamental Laws Of Profit
1. Mais vale perder um ganho que ganhar uma perda, a menos que se cumpra a Segunda Lei.
2. A expectativa de ganho deve superar a expectativa de perda, onde a expectativa mede a
__.amplitude média do ganho/perda contra a respectiva probabilidade.
3. A Primeira Lei não é mesmo necessária mas com Três Leis isto fica definitivamente mais giro.
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Oh Homem! dos warrants... Então agora que o movimento é claramente para cima apostamos na Nokia a 9 euros? O Gap? Amanhão logo pela manhã deves ter um mas em sentido contrário aos puts. Reparaste no fecho nos eua? Pois é... para cima.
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Caro Marco Antonio
Quanto ao que diz tem razao, mas eu continuou a basear-me fortemente no rsi14 que esta perto de estar sobrecomprado.
O efeito comprador dos resultados acredito ja estar diluido.
As estimativas para os exercicios seguintes foram deixadas sob reservas, pelo que depende em muito do desenvolvimento no sector e principalmente da acelaraçao economica ou nao.
Por outro lado, nao queria dizer isto, mas acredito que ate as eleiçoes americanas podemos eventualmente (eventualmente) assistir a fortes correcçoes para em caso disso fazer rallie logo apos estas.
Cenarios de atentados parecem pouco provaveis, no entanto os ursos podem servir-se de rumores para fazerem a festa.
No caso acredito que a NOk começando a cair , acompanhada pelo sector, nao sao conhecidos grandes suportes antes dos 9,3 euros seguidos dos 8,83
Isto a acontecer em curto espaço temporal , poderá gerar alguma valorizaçao nos puts que tenho na medida que estao agora quase dados e sendo de paridade 1/1 .(bom aproveitamento vega-theta)
Quanto ao que diz tem razao, mas eu continuou a basear-me fortemente no rsi14 que esta perto de estar sobrecomprado.
O efeito comprador dos resultados acredito ja estar diluido.
As estimativas para os exercicios seguintes foram deixadas sob reservas, pelo que depende em muito do desenvolvimento no sector e principalmente da acelaraçao economica ou nao.
Por outro lado, nao queria dizer isto, mas acredito que ate as eleiçoes americanas podemos eventualmente (eventualmente) assistir a fortes correcçoes para em caso disso fazer rallie logo apos estas.
Cenarios de atentados parecem pouco provaveis, no entanto os ursos podem servir-se de rumores para fazerem a festa.
No caso acredito que a NOk começando a cair , acompanhada pelo sector, nao sao conhecidos grandes suportes antes dos 9,3 euros seguidos dos 8,83
Isto a acontecer em curto espaço temporal , poderá gerar alguma valorizaçao nos puts que tenho na medida que estao agora quase dados e sendo de paridade 1/1 .(bom aproveitamento vega-theta)
Naquele dia ,todo o joelho se dobrará e toda a lingua confessará:
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Re: Nokia _ estou curto (duplo topo)
homemdoswarrants Escreveu:Tenho puts para 9 euros ate Dezembro (1/1)
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Homemdoswarrants, embora não acompanhe regularmente a Nokia, gostaría de lhe chamar atenção para dois pontos importantes:
Duplo-topo - presumindo que se está a referir ao duplo-topo como sendo os dois toques nos 15 USD, o duplo-topo simplesmente não existe (enquanto padrão). Tudo está mal nesse padrão para ser um duplo topo...
Se quiser posso explicar mais detalhadamente mas na realidade todo o enquadramento do duplo topo está incorrecto, a figura está completamente fora do contexto.
Gap's - como sabe a Nokia está cotada em vários mercados. Ora, o que ocorre bastantes vezes é darem-se importantes movimentos na Nokia «europeia» (isto é, na Nokia cotada em praças europeias) enquanto os Estados Unidos estão fechados. E quando estes abrem corrigem logo em conformidade com estes movimentos. Isso explica os frequentes gap's da Nokia que se vêm na cotada nos Estados Unidos mas não se vêm na cotada nas praças europeias.
Portanto, estes gap's são gap's de «validade relativa»...
Relativamente à Nokia em si, não tenho grande opinião porque não a sigo, mas assim muito superficialmente, parece-me que se passar os 15 USD ficará em excelentes condições para uma importante subida.
FLOP - Fundamental Laws Of Profit
1. Mais vale perder um ganho que ganhar uma perda, a menos que se cumpra a Segunda Lei.
2. A expectativa de ganho deve superar a expectativa de perda, onde a expectativa mede a
__.amplitude média do ganho/perda contra a respectiva probabilidade.
3. A Primeira Lei não é mesmo necessária mas com Três Leis isto fica definitivamente mais giro.
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Nokia and Metrowerks Complete Transaction on Transfer of Application Development Technology to Nokia
October 18, 2004
Austin, Texas, USA - On September 8, 2004, Nokia Corporation (NYSE: NOK) announced the agreement about an acquisition of applications development tools for Symbian OS and the licensing of core development tool technologies from Metrowerks Corporation, an independent subsidiary of Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. (FSL).
The transaction was subject to customary closing conditions. The acquisition process has been completed today.
Nokia and O2 continue their close collaboration in 2G and 3G mobility services
October 18, 2004
Following the replacement of O2's previous supplier of GSM base station network, Nokia has become the sole supplier for O2's 2G base station infrastructure in the UK. This has been made possible through the close collaboration of both organisations and integration of project teams resulting in the rapid change out of over 2000 base stations. Not only has this been achieved in challenging time scales but also has enabled O2 to significantly improve network quality to the extent that it has independently been recognised as having the best ever UK mobile call success rate, beating all figures previously published by Oftel.
As the majority WCDMA RAN supplier to the mmO2 group, Nokia is committed to supporting high quality end user experience for O2's 3G Customers, specifically within the M25 London motorway ring area. Part of this project is a tuning and optimisation programme that has been employed to enhance interoperation between 2G and 3G services across the Nokia supplied infrastructure.
"We are pleased to be building out the system that will bring high-speed 3G services to our Irish, German and UK customers and we chose Nokia's 3G system thanks to its good performance and the solidity of its system roadmap," says Dave Williams, Chief Technology Officer, O2.
"We are determined to ensure our 3G network provides the best possible operation in terms of reliability and coverage, especially in urban areas. We know that O2 customers will expect a lot from our 3G offering and we plan to satisfy that expectation," he adds.
"We are happy to be working with O2 in bringing 3G to some of the world's premier markets for advanced mobile multimedia services," says Peter Kühne, Vice President, Networks, Nokia.
"The roll-out of Nokia's system in all three of these countries is a clear endorsement for the quality of our network solution. And we are looking forward to playing a continuing role beyond these initial roll-outs," he adds.
O2 and Nokia have also successfully completed a Push to Talk over Cellular (PoC) trial using commercially available technology and terminals. O2 is now evaluating its approach to this potential new service.
Nokia has been the major GSM supplier to O2 networks since 1990.
About mmO2
mmO2 has 100% ownership of mobile network operators in three countries - the UK, Germany and Ireland - as well as a leading mobile Internet portal business. All of these businesses are branded as O2. Additionally, the company is a founding member of Starmap Mobile Alliance, has operations on the Isle of Man (Manx Telecom) and owns O2 Airwave - an advanced, digital emergency communications service.
mmO2 was the first company in the world to launch and rollout a commercial GPRS (or 2.5G) network and has third generation mobile telephony ("3G") licences in the UK, Ireland and Germany.
mmO2 has more than 21 million customers and some 13,000 employees. It reported revenues for the year ended 31 March 2004 of £5.646 billion. Data represented more than 21% of total service revenues in the quarter ending 30 June 2004.
Chunghwa launches Nokia's push to talk network solution in Taiwan
October 18, 2004
Espoo, Finland - Chunghwa Telecom Co., Ltd. has launched Taiwan's first push to talk service, using Nokia's industry-leading Push to talk over Cellular (PoC) solution, marking a major step in Chunghwa's drive to bring its customers next-generation mobile service. Nokia now has commercial PoC network contracts with 18 GSM operators, and is trialing with well over 30 operators worldwide.
Under the agreement, Nokia is providing a complete PoC solution, including system installation and integration. Nokia's PoC solution is in line with the Industry Consortium Pre-standards specification and can be upgraded to the OMA PoC standards, which are expected to be ratified next year.
"Chunghwa has a close partnership with Nokia in GPRS and 3G," said Shaio-Tung Chang, President, Mobile Business Group, Chunghwa Telecom. "With the launch of PoC, our cooperation now extends to mobile services and applications. We are happy to be continuing our work with Nokia to broaden our multimedia service offering."
"Chunghwa Telecom is one of Nokia's leading customers in adopting new technologies," said Simon Beresford-Wylie, Senior Vice President, Networks, Nokia. "Push to talk service is an important milestone in the multimedia arena, and is widely considered to be the lead application using the IP Multimedia Subsystem. We see great promise also in our on-going cooperation with Chunghwa in the area of SIP/IMS technology, and look forward to wider scale pilots of IMS applications in the future."
IMS is the network architecture platform for advanced IP-multimedia services, such as real time video sharing, content sharing, push to talk, and various interactive applications including gaming. IMS also paves way for the introduction of Voice over IP (VoIP), a key part of the convergence of fixed and mobile domains. It provides the connectivity that enables SIP-capable terminals and devices to establish IP sessions between each other, over any IP connection, such as GPRS, WCDMA 3G, broadband home connections or WLAN hotspots.
Nokia is the world leader in mobile communications, driving the growth and sustainability of the broader mobility industry. Nokia is dedicated to enhancing people's lives and productivity by providing easy-to-use and innovative products like mobile phones, and solutions for imaging, games, media, mobile network operators and businesses. Nokia is a broadly held company with listings on five major exchanges.
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Nokia and Metrowerks Complete Transaction on Transfer of Application Development Technology to Nokia
October 18, 2004
Austin, Texas, USA - On September 8, 2004, Nokia Corporation (NYSE: NOK) announced the agreement about an acquisition of applications development tools for Symbian OS and the licensing of core development tool technologies from Metrowerks Corporation, an independent subsidiary of Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. (FSL).
The transaction was subject to customary closing conditions. The acquisition process has been completed today.
Nokia and O2 continue their close collaboration in 2G and 3G mobility services
October 18, 2004
Following the replacement of O2's previous supplier of GSM base station network, Nokia has become the sole supplier for O2's 2G base station infrastructure in the UK. This has been made possible through the close collaboration of both organisations and integration of project teams resulting in the rapid change out of over 2000 base stations. Not only has this been achieved in challenging time scales but also has enabled O2 to significantly improve network quality to the extent that it has independently been recognised as having the best ever UK mobile call success rate, beating all figures previously published by Oftel.
As the majority WCDMA RAN supplier to the mmO2 group, Nokia is committed to supporting high quality end user experience for O2's 3G Customers, specifically within the M25 London motorway ring area. Part of this project is a tuning and optimisation programme that has been employed to enhance interoperation between 2G and 3G services across the Nokia supplied infrastructure.
"We are pleased to be building out the system that will bring high-speed 3G services to our Irish, German and UK customers and we chose Nokia's 3G system thanks to its good performance and the solidity of its system roadmap," says Dave Williams, Chief Technology Officer, O2.
"We are determined to ensure our 3G network provides the best possible operation in terms of reliability and coverage, especially in urban areas. We know that O2 customers will expect a lot from our 3G offering and we plan to satisfy that expectation," he adds.
"We are happy to be working with O2 in bringing 3G to some of the world's premier markets for advanced mobile multimedia services," says Peter Kühne, Vice President, Networks, Nokia.
"The roll-out of Nokia's system in all three of these countries is a clear endorsement for the quality of our network solution. And we are looking forward to playing a continuing role beyond these initial roll-outs," he adds.
O2 and Nokia have also successfully completed a Push to Talk over Cellular (PoC) trial using commercially available technology and terminals. O2 is now evaluating its approach to this potential new service.
Nokia has been the major GSM supplier to O2 networks since 1990.
About mmO2
mmO2 has 100% ownership of mobile network operators in three countries - the UK, Germany and Ireland - as well as a leading mobile Internet portal business. All of these businesses are branded as O2. Additionally, the company is a founding member of Starmap Mobile Alliance, has operations on the Isle of Man (Manx Telecom) and owns O2 Airwave - an advanced, digital emergency communications service.
mmO2 was the first company in the world to launch and rollout a commercial GPRS (or 2.5G) network and has third generation mobile telephony ("3G") licences in the UK, Ireland and Germany.
mmO2 has more than 21 million customers and some 13,000 employees. It reported revenues for the year ended 31 March 2004 of £5.646 billion. Data represented more than 21% of total service revenues in the quarter ending 30 June 2004.
Chunghwa launches Nokia's push to talk network solution in Taiwan
October 18, 2004
Espoo, Finland - Chunghwa Telecom Co., Ltd. has launched Taiwan's first push to talk service, using Nokia's industry-leading Push to talk over Cellular (PoC) solution, marking a major step in Chunghwa's drive to bring its customers next-generation mobile service. Nokia now has commercial PoC network contracts with 18 GSM operators, and is trialing with well over 30 operators worldwide.
Under the agreement, Nokia is providing a complete PoC solution, including system installation and integration. Nokia's PoC solution is in line with the Industry Consortium Pre-standards specification and can be upgraded to the OMA PoC standards, which are expected to be ratified next year.
"Chunghwa has a close partnership with Nokia in GPRS and 3G," said Shaio-Tung Chang, President, Mobile Business Group, Chunghwa Telecom. "With the launch of PoC, our cooperation now extends to mobile services and applications. We are happy to be continuing our work with Nokia to broaden our multimedia service offering."
"Chunghwa Telecom is one of Nokia's leading customers in adopting new technologies," said Simon Beresford-Wylie, Senior Vice President, Networks, Nokia. "Push to talk service is an important milestone in the multimedia arena, and is widely considered to be the lead application using the IP Multimedia Subsystem. We see great promise also in our on-going cooperation with Chunghwa in the area of SIP/IMS technology, and look forward to wider scale pilots of IMS applications in the future."
IMS is the network architecture platform for advanced IP-multimedia services, such as real time video sharing, content sharing, push to talk, and various interactive applications including gaming. IMS also paves way for the introduction of Voice over IP (VoIP), a key part of the convergence of fixed and mobile domains. It provides the connectivity that enables SIP-capable terminals and devices to establish IP sessions between each other, over any IP connection, such as GPRS, WCDMA 3G, broadband home connections or WLAN hotspots.
Nokia is the world leader in mobile communications, driving the growth and sustainability of the broader mobility industry. Nokia is dedicated to enhancing people's lives and productivity by providing easy-to-use and innovative products like mobile phones, and solutions for imaging, games, media, mobile network operators and businesses. Nokia is a broadly held company with listings on five major exchanges.
Media Enquiries:
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www.nokia.com
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