“Confiança” na dívida da periferia é “positiva”

[Figueiraa1]

Quem deu cabo do FB foram os xuxalistas e resto da esquerda, enojam tanto a rede c as suas demagogias que hoje em dia ir ao FB dá nojo. Tenho alguns amigos xuxas q todos os dias repito todos os dias enojam o FB com as tretas politicas diárias e demagógicas do costume, p se mostrarem e verem se alguem do PS lhes arranja algum tacho.
Costumava ir diariamente ao FB mas hoje em dia apenas uma vez por semana no max.
A politica demagogica está a acabar c o FB na minha opinião.

[migasl]

Quem deu cabo do FB foram os xuxalistas e resto da esquerda, enojam tanto a rede c as suas demagogias que hoje em dia ir ao FB dá nojo. Tenho alguns amigos xuxas q todos os dias repito todos os dias enojam o FB com as tretas politicas diárias e demagógicas do costume, p se mostrarem e verem se alguem do PS lhes arranja algum tacho.
Costumava ir diariamente ao FB mas hoje em dia apenas uma vez por semana no max.
A politica demagogica está a acabar c o FB na minha opinião.

[Trisquel]

http://sicnoticias.sapo.pt/pais/2013/06 ... deser-sexy

[Texano Bill]

Boas
Alguém disponível para fazer uma actualização desta menina que me está a levar ao desespero.

obrigado

Onde é que já vai o 1 milhão de euros

[AmgMaia]

Boas
Alguém disponível para fazer uma actualização desta menina que me está a levar ao desespero.

obrigado

[JPinela]

bem, o FB esta numa zona diria muito importante IMHO.
Se quebrada, tem os valores dos 38 em vista.
Na zona actual, encontra-se uma resistencia que já o foi em julho do ano passado, antes de "rolar escada abaixo" .
se quebrados com consistência os 31.80 / 32 abre caminho para os 40 e por ai além.
e diria que a recuperação desde os 17 já é notável.

abr,
jpinela.

[atomez]

Facebook está a ficar muito interessante, por mais que uma razão.

- depois de quedas violentas logo a seguir ao IPO, estabilizou e iniciou uma recuperação gradual, nesta altura está em cima de um suporte nos $30

- apresentaram hoje o novo serviço de pesquisa Graph Search que é muito interessante, não é uma alternativa ao Google mas um mecanismo de pesquisa orientado às relações existentes; pode ser altamente gerador de receitas para o FB

Facebook Announces New Search Engine

Facebook announced a new search engine called “Graph Search” at a much-anticipated press event at its Menlo Park headquarters this morning.

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg says the search engine would leverage Facebook’s one billion members’ 240 billion photos, and 1 trillion interpersonal connections. Zuckerberg said Graph Search is designed to handle more precise queries than general web search, like “Who are my friends who live in San Francisco, my friends who live in Palo Alto, California and like Game of Thrones, and Mexican restaurants in Palo Alto, CA my friends have been to, and friends who like Star Wars and Harry Potter?” As results come back, users can refine results using a control panel on the right side of the screen.

Zuckerberg said Graph Search is now going into limited beta to a “very small number” of users and will be rolled out “very slowly” after that. “It’s an honor to be able to build this service and offer it to the world,” Zuckerberg says. “I don’t think people will start coming to Facebook to do web searches, but I think in time people will come to Facebook to do this [targeted queries] when they can’t find what they want.”

Zuckerberg summarized the search engine as “Giving people the tools to do the [data] cut they want and get the pictures they want. That’s the third pillar of search and we’re calling it Graph Search.”

Graph Search could be a hugely lucrative product for Facebook. Because people who run web searches are often close to making a purchase decision, advertisers are very eager to place ads next to search results. Close to 80 percent of Google’s billions in revenue is derived from this type of advertising.

Josh Elman, a former Facebook and Twitter product manager who is now a principal at the venture capital firm Greylock Partners, thinks Facebook will be able “To monetize incredibly well,” on Graph Search. That will happen, he adds, “Once Facebook changes enough behavior to create intention for searching for recommendations and items that result in a purchase.

“When that happens they will be able to monetize incredibly well, but it takes searching for local business recommendations, product recommendations, etc., which people will have to switch over time to Facebook.”

[AmgMaia]

Facebook a fazer o seu caminho, já faltou mais para os 38, boa recuperação

[agany]

neste momento vários analistas acham que o FB vai voltar a 38 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







daqui a imenso tempo.

Enquanto há vida...

[atomez]

Um dado curioso deste IPO do FB -- a comissão dos underwriters no negócio, que costuma ser entre 3 e 5%, neste foi "só" de 1.1%... ainda assim são $176M

Facebook Underwriters To Split $176 Million In IPO Fees

[Ulisses Pereira]

Não esperem que o Zuckerberg venha defender a empresa ou tecer quaisquer comentários para o futuro. Ele continuará a centrar-se em fazer crescer o Facebook e não esperem dele algo que não é.

Um abraço,
Ulisses

[acintra]

e está tudo a perguntar onde está o Mark ?
pode vir com o capuz mas está toda a gente à espera !

Casou-se no sábado e deve ter ido de lua de mel.
Se calhar foi recomendado a fazer após os resultados de sexta e da tempestade de noticias que vinham a caminho.

[acintra]

Agora, acho que vem buscar os $28 quera era o o minimo do range da primeira avaliação para o IPO.

[jarc]

Sim, há análises muito otimistas. Vamos ver se supera esse valor no curto termo.

[pvg80713]

neste momento vários analistas acham que o FB vai voltar a 38 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







daqui a imenso tempo.

[jarc]

http://www.jornaldenegocios.pt/home.php ... &id=558227

A ser verdade este expediente só poderá dar grande pázada.

[pvg80713]

e está tudo a perguntar onde está o Mark ?
pode vir com o capuz mas está toda a gente à espera !

[acintra]

Onde isto já vai...

..

EXCLUSIVE Q&A: Hedge Funder Who Bet $100 Million On The Facebook IPO Just Called And Boy Was He Furious
By Nicholas Carlson | Business Insider – 3 minutes 2 seconds ago.. .


We just got off the phone with a hedge fund manager who says his fund owns Facebook stock "in excess of a $100 million."

It bought the stock during Friday's IPO.

This source spoke to us because he is very angry about the Facebook IPO – particularly the way NASDAQ has handled it.

His allegations/claims/opinions:
•NASDAQ knew it systems were broken before the Facebook IPO, and instead of aborting the offering and facing huge embarrassment, it went ahead. Traders then lost hundreds of millions of dollars as they tried to buy and sell Facebook stock without getting confirmation that their trades had been executed.
•NASDAQ made the problem worse on Monday. NASDAQ told traders who thought they had sold their Facebook stock on Friday – but had actually not – to fill out a form by noon. This form asked traders to list the price at which they thought they had sold their stock and they price at which they actually had. Problem was: Many of these traders had not yet actually sold their stock. Because the form required an actual selling price, many did, dumping tens of millions of shares of Facebook stock on the market, and sending the stock price plummeting.
We reached out to NASDAQ about this story but have not heard back.
This hedge fund manager requested anonymity because "I have a mortgage" and "I'm a blue collar Wall Street guy…I could lose my job if my partners found out I was talking to you."

This hedge fund manager agreed to an interview, which we transcribed. Here is a lightly edited version of that transcription:

Business Insider: So what happened on Friday?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: Early on Friday there was euphoria. You started seeing these messages out of Europe about a market being made around $70/share. We started seeing allocations were out. We heard big firms that put in for big amounts were not getting it. We heard retail customers at small firms were able to get some stock: a couple thousand shares. Then you had guys with $20 million accounts at Goldman who were getting 200 shares total. It was just kind of messed up in allocation.

Business Insider: When did things start to go truly wrong?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: The message that this thing was getting traded in the $70s started getting tremendous hype. Then we started getting looks from the floor.The first was $50. Then $45. Then $42. Then it was holding at $42 for whatever reason. $42. $42. $42.

What happened was NASDAQ was delaying it.

NASDAQ held a conference call and they said we're going to delay.

While we were waiting for it to open, if you called the Morgan Stanley institutional desk, they would tell you "we can't put any buy orders in." If there were institutional investors who wanted to round out their positions they couldn't do at that point.

The stock opened at $42.

Business Insider: Why couldn't the institutional desk put buy orders in?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: When you're trading big, big blocks, it goes to a trader. It goes to a desk. Its not done through a machine. The big blocks on the desk, they put their orders through NASDAQ, and they get a message of confirmation that NASDAQ has received your order.

But after Facebook opened up [the desks] didn't get the final piece: their orders were confirmed as received but not as filled.

Business Insider: How did people react to the chaos?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: The guys on the buy side were very happy because Facebook opened at $42 and was trading down. The guys on the sell side were in the dark, because they did not have a clear answer from NASDAQ that the trades were done or not.

The stock closed down because the people who thought they sold early didn't sell, so they sold as the day went on.

But you still had an estimated 30 million shares that were in the dark – people who wanted to sell.

So Friday closes, everybody is saying what the fuck, I don't know if I sold or not.

Then NASDAQ sent out a message saying "we will do a manual order close after the Friday close."

It appeared that NASDAQ was matching orders and putting them on the tape. We felt like we got our order: we thought we sold at $42.

Then over the weekend, it got fishy.

Business Insider: Fishy? Why?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: We started asking questions: If we sold, who bought? My shares have to go to somebody. Who would be my contra-party? It would have be NASDAQ. So we start wondering if NASDAQ was buying shares, or if we had actually sold.

Business Insider: Did you ever find out?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: Monday morning comes. The stock is trading at $38.25. NASDAQ calls brokers and says we cannot take a position in this stock.

NASDAQ has rule that says this is how we handle computer f--kups. NASDAQ rule 4626. It says if we f--kup we'll pay it. They have a kitty of $3 million that they'll payout.

So they told us: You need to fill out a form that says what you thought you sold it at and what you actually sold it at. The message was: If you haven't sold it, sell it.

Business Insider: That's a shocking allegation. Did NASDAQ say "sell your Facebook stock" or did you just infer that?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: Their form is very basic. It has two pieces: W hat you should have sold it at and what you did sell it at. The form had to be in by noon. You couldn't send them a form if you didn't sell it. Your form that was due by noon would be incomplete. That forced everyone to take a loss.

We had to make a decision. We said book a loss and go to NASDAQ. In a heart beat, the stock goes to $36 because there was tremendous selling pressure in those 30 minutes.

Business Insider: So now what?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: So now we're waiting on NASDAQ. Rule 4626 also limits their liability on system crashes. They'll say to the member firms: you've agreed to this limitation.

But this was not a market crash.This was alike a spaceship that was about to launch and a flashing warning light goes off and they say I'd rather launch this thing than say abort this thing. They new this thing was fucked and they just went in and did it. This isn't a computer fuck-up. The computers told them it wasn't working. Someone had to pull it.

Think about pulling the Facebook IPO. No way they would never do it.

Business Insider: Are you going to sue?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: There is talk of class action lawsuits. The question is will NASDAQ do the right thing. They made $400 million last year and could pay out some. There's so much exposure and so much press on this and finger pointing, if they turn around and say they screwed up but they don't care that's a pretty big deal – but yeah that may be wishful thinking.

Business Insider: Final thoughts on the IPO?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: It never stood a shot. If there was any enthusiasm for this deal, that got wiped out. Think about a guy who was going to put five grand on this. You got to Vegas and put $5,000 on the roulette wheel and it breaks, it's like, hold on, I'm not going to do that. Suddenly you're like this is Wall Street and I hate Wall Street.

Business insider: You could argue the system failure may have saved some of the Muppets, then?

Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager: No doubt. But this should have been a blockbuster. This should have traded to $60 or $70. This should have launched a wave of tech IPOs.

[Automech]

Morgan Stanley cortou previsões para o Facebook dias antes de colocar rede social na bolsa
22 Maio 2012 | 18:31

Banco responsável pela colocação do Facebook em bolsa baixou previsões para os resultados da empresa e terá alertado apenas alguns clientes.
O Morgan Stanley está a ser alvo de críticas pela forma como conduziu a oferta pública inicial do Facebook, que continua a negociar em bolsa a um valor inferior ao preço a que os títulos foram vendidos aos investidores.

Quando já decorria o “road show” para o Facebook atrair investidores, o analista do Morgan Stanley reviu em baixa as suas projecções para os resultados da companhia. Nada de extraordinário se o Morgan Stanley não fosse o banco o principal responsável pela operação de colocação da empresa em bolsa e também o facto de ter alertado apenas alguns potenciais investidores.

A notícia está a ser avançada pela Reuters, que conclui que a má prestação das acções do Facebook em bolsa estará relacionada com este alerta dos analistas do Morgan Stanley. A revisão em baixa das estimativas (de forma “significativa” para o segundo trimestre) ocorreu depois do Facebook ter inserido no prospecto do IPO um alerta sobre o facto de os utilizadores estarem a usar a rede social cada vez mais a partir de dispositivos móveis, onde é mais difícil captar receitas publicitárias.

Segundo a mesma fonte, também o Goldman Sachs e o JPMorgan, bancos que também participaram no IPO, terão revisto em baixa as estimativas para o Facebook.

“Isto foi feito durante um ‘road show’ – nunca vi nada disto em 10 anos”, disse à Reuters uma fonte, que trabalha num dos fundos de investimento a quem a Morgan Stanley fez chegar as novas estimativas dos seus analistas.

Mas nem todos os investidores que estavam interessados no Facebook terão recebido esta informação. Sobretudo os particulares, que praticamente não conseguiram comprar acções no IPO.

Recorde-se que o Facebook vendeu as acções aos investidores ao preço mais elevado do intervalo pré-definido (34 a 38 dólares). A elevada procura dos investidores levou também o Facebook a vender mais acções do que o inicialmente previsto.

Ao contrário do que muitas expectativas apontavam, o Facebook registou uma fraca estreia em bolsa. No dia de estreia chegou a tocar nos 45,00 dólares, depois de ter subido 18% nos primeiros minutos de negociação. Mas esta subida foi sol de pouca dura. Ontem caíram mais de 10% e hoje já estiveram a descer 8,96% para 30,98 dólares.

Seguem a meio da sessão em Wall Street com uma perda mais contida de 3,85% para 32,71 dólares.
A esta cotação a empresa está avaliada em 89,6 mil milhões de dólares, uma queda de 14,5 mil milhões de dólares face à capitalização bolsista tendo em conta o preço do IPO.
http://www.jornaldenegocios.pt/home.php ... &id=558227

[acintra]

Isso foi o que eu achei, mas ao ver na yahoo este valor ainda fiquei em duvida que fosse alguma transacção não identificada ou um erro de alguem a dar uma ordem.

[Ulisses Pereira]

O valor mais baixo de hoje foi nos 30,98.

Um abraço,
Ulisses

[acintra]

Não estou a perceber!

Se repararem na oscilação diária está o valor mais baixo de hoje em $23,41.

Será possivel? Mesmo não aparecendo no gráfico?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=fb&ql=1

[SMALL1969]

Qual era o intervalo de valorização inicial? Penso que foi revisto em alta dado a enorme procura de institucionais. Se calhar isso dará uma ideia de até onde pode descer.

...up from the original estimates of $28 to $35 a share.

Então é aguardar que inverta e depois logo se avalia.

[L.S.S]

Só uma pergunta:

Quando vamos deixar de ter 2 - tópicos - 2 sobre o mesmo assunto (Facebook)!

Desculpem a intromissão!

( )

Quico este tópico tem no titulo "Facebook, IPO à vista".

O IPO é passado...

Por isso tomei a liberdade de abrir um tópico em conformidade com a realidade!

Se fosse agora mudava o Titulo do Tópico para "Facebook Uma Boa Acção Para Shortar?"

[Quico]

Só uma pergunta:

Quando vamos deixar de ter 2 - tópicos - 2 sobre o mesmo assunto (Facebook)!

Desculpem a intromissão!

( )