DNA - Genentech
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Pois... eu tenho a sensacao que se o sentimento do mercado fosse de alta, a DNA tinha ultrapassado as expectativas, mas depois do dia de ontem o sentimento eh que falhou as expectativas...
No entanto a DNA esta a segurar-se muito bem... neste momento ja esta a subir (depois de ter aberto a perder mais de 1%). Vou mante-la com um stop junto aos 79 (ligeiramente abaixo do suporte dos 80).
Um abraco
Nuno
No entanto a DNA esta a segurar-se muito bem... neste momento ja esta a subir (depois de ter aberto a perder mais de 1%). Vou mante-la com um stop junto aos 79 (ligeiramente abaixo do suporte dos 80).
Um abraco
Nuno
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Nuno, transcrevo-te uma pequena nota, esta manhã, do analista de biotechs do Realmoney que foca aquele ponto de se considerar ou não o GAAP.
Um abraço,
Ulisses
Justin Ferayorni
DNA (and its options) after the call
4/12/2006 8:30 AM EDT
"All in all, a solid quarter out of DNA. Operating metrics were better than expected across the board, and guidance for the year raised slightly.
Why the somber stock? I can't be sure. Rituxan was a bit light in the quarter, but no reason to blow lunch. It is a touchy market now though, so keep it in mind. Avastin was a bit weaker than I was expecting and was probably about in line with street estimates. I think Avastin being in line speaks more to weakness in the stock as the path of growth is in question. Out-quarter and out-year estimates are still pretty lofty, and we need continued sequential increases out of Avastin to get there. Herceptin continues to impress though and should have been an offset.
One thing struck me after going through the numbers and reading the transcript. What were consensus estimates? I know this has been discussed on the site and services like Bloomberg have gone out of their way to rectify GAAP vs. non-GAAP consensus, but we still don't have a good handle on it. The perception of missing will certainly bother stocks -- whether they missed or not. DNA's GAAP EPS = 39 cents. Non-GAAP = 46 cents. Consensus was 41 cents for the "majority" of analysts, and 37 cents for the "minority" of analysts according to Bloomberg. So was it a miss or a beat?
It was a beat to me. I don't think stuff like this matters over time, but you could see stocks get swung around quite a bit as a result of the confusion. Just an observation after my first quarterly report for March 2006.
One last note on options expensing: it just got more complicated to follow. DNA didn't have any COGS options expense in the quarter because all product shipped was produced in 2005 - before FAS 123 went into effect. Thus the COGS options expensing will start to trickle in over the course of 2006. Just another thing to consider for all the other companies out there, for those of you who care.
Position: long non-GAAP and cash flow analysis
"
(in www.realmoney.com)
Um abraço,
Ulisses
Justin Ferayorni
DNA (and its options) after the call
4/12/2006 8:30 AM EDT
"All in all, a solid quarter out of DNA. Operating metrics were better than expected across the board, and guidance for the year raised slightly.
Why the somber stock? I can't be sure. Rituxan was a bit light in the quarter, but no reason to blow lunch. It is a touchy market now though, so keep it in mind. Avastin was a bit weaker than I was expecting and was probably about in line with street estimates. I think Avastin being in line speaks more to weakness in the stock as the path of growth is in question. Out-quarter and out-year estimates are still pretty lofty, and we need continued sequential increases out of Avastin to get there. Herceptin continues to impress though and should have been an offset.
One thing struck me after going through the numbers and reading the transcript. What were consensus estimates? I know this has been discussed on the site and services like Bloomberg have gone out of their way to rectify GAAP vs. non-GAAP consensus, but we still don't have a good handle on it. The perception of missing will certainly bother stocks -- whether they missed or not. DNA's GAAP EPS = 39 cents. Non-GAAP = 46 cents. Consensus was 41 cents for the "majority" of analysts, and 37 cents for the "minority" of analysts according to Bloomberg. So was it a miss or a beat?
It was a beat to me. I don't think stuff like this matters over time, but you could see stocks get swung around quite a bit as a result of the confusion. Just an observation after my first quarterly report for March 2006.
One last note on options expensing: it just got more complicated to follow. DNA didn't have any COGS options expense in the quarter because all product shipped was produced in 2005 - before FAS 123 went into effect. Thus the COGS options expensing will start to trickle in over the course of 2006. Just another thing to consider for all the other companies out there, for those of you who care.
Position: long non-GAAP and cash flow analysis
"
(in www.realmoney.com)
Olhando com um pouco mais atencao para os resultados da DNA e para as previsoes do analistas, vi que estava a comparar batatas com macas... os 40/41 centimos esperados pelos analistas nao incluiam as despesas com stock options... caso se ignore esse parametro nos resultados da DNA, eles foram superiores ao esperado (46 centimos).
Vamos la ver como a DNA abre... se o suporte aguentar, sou capaz de guardar estas accoes para o medio prazo (pois acredito na companhia)...
Um abraco
Nuno
Vamos la ver como a DNA abre... se o suporte aguentar, sou capaz de guardar estas accoes para o medio prazo (pois acredito na companhia)...
Um abraco
Nuno
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Resultados nao muito bons (1 centimo abaixo do consensus) mas com as vendas do avastin ligeiramente acima (398 Vs 389).
O resultado, eh que a DNA esta a descer o que subiu nos ultimos minutos da sessao e esta novamente nos 80USD... vamos ver o suporte aguenta o after hours e como a accao abre amanha
Um abraco
nuno
O resultado, eh que a DNA esta a descer o que subiu nos ultimos minutos da sessao e esta novamente nos 80USD... vamos ver o suporte aguenta o after hours e como a accao abre amanha
Um abraco
nuno
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Este eh claramente um trade em que vou tentar "apanhar uma faca a cair". E, dado que a DNA vai apresentar resultados mais logo, sei que posso perder 15-20% do dinheiro investido...
O que eu queria mostrar (mas nao tenho o meta neste computador) eh a existencia de um suporte bastante forte nos 80USD...
Caso quebre, acredito que a DNA possa, a medio prazo, ir ate aos 60USD (target do HS que pode ter sido formado desde Junho do ano passado). Caso o suporte aguente, acredito que deva fazer novos maximos no curto prazo...
Um abraco e obrigado
Nuno
O que eu queria mostrar (mas nao tenho o meta neste computador) eh a existencia de um suporte bastante forte nos 80USD...
Caso quebre, acredito que a DNA possa, a medio prazo, ir ate aos 60USD (target do HS que pode ter sido formado desde Junho do ano passado). Caso o suporte aguente, acredito que deva fazer novos maximos no curto prazo...
Um abraco e obrigado
Nuno
Pluricanal... não obrigado. Serviço péssimo e enganador!!!
DNA - Genentech
Esta empresa apresenta resultados hoje... pedia a alguem que colocasse aqui o grafico pois esta num ponto bastante interessante... esta em cima do suporte dos 80USD que, caso seja quebrado, podera levar a DNA a uma correccao forte...
No entanto, eu acredito que os resultados da DNA vao ser bastante bons, e por isso entrei com uma posicao longa muito pequena (pois esta accao eh extremamente volatil e apresenta resultados hoje ao fim do dia).
Um abraco e bons negocios
Nuno
No entanto, eu acredito que os resultados da DNA vao ser bastante bons, e por isso entrei com uma posicao longa muito pequena (pois esta accao eh extremamente volatil e apresenta resultados hoje ao fim do dia).
Um abraco e bons negocios
Nuno
Pluricanal... não obrigado. Serviço péssimo e enganador!!!
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