“Confiança” na dívida da periferia é “positiva”

[Capablanca]

... quando vi isto só pensei «onde é que está o Paciente para me ajudar?» :-) É para isto que estes Fóruns servem afinal ...

Ora, que ia haver a fusão eu já tinha ideia, mas não sabia que era hoje que se concretizava. A esperança reside no facto de um erro da corretora, pois eles não fizeram o stock split e eu tinha as 1500 acções para vender (e deveria ter apenas 500).

Mas, como diz o Ulisses, estas coisas são sempre corrigidas mais tarde ... se bem que depois de ouvir a operadora a dizer que dando ordem de venda a 7, venderia a 7, estando o comprador a 7.15, já não digo nada, anything can happen :-)

Abraços, obrigado pela info !

[Paciente]

A KGC não está a subir 200%! O que se passou foi que hoje ela passou a cotar tendo em consideração o reverse stock-split já aprovado pelos accionistas da KGC. A fusão da KGC com a ECO e a TVX, de que também já se falava há uns tempos é que foi finalmente aprovada (aceite) pelos accionistas da ECO e TVX.

Deixo aqui a notícia:


Kinross Becomes the New Senior North American Gold Producer


TORONTO, Jan. 31 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ - Kinross Gold Corporation (TSX- K; Amex-KGC; NYSE-KGC effective February 3, 2003) ("Kinross") is pleased to announce the approval of the Combination by the shareholders of Echo Bay Mines Ltd. (TSX-ECO; Amex-ECO) ("Echo Bay") and TVX Gold Inc. (TSX-TVX; NYSE-TVX) ("TVX") and the receipt of final approval of the Plan of Arrangement by the Superior Court of Justice, Ontario. As a result of the completion today of the Combination of Kinross, Echo Bay and TVX and the acquisition of the 49.9% interest in the TVX Newmont Americas joint venture from Newmont Mining Corporation (NYSE-NEM; TSX-NMC; ASX-NEM) ("Newmont"), Kinross has become the seventh largest primary gold producer in the world. Kinross is the only senior North American based gold producer with both a strict non-hedging policy and less than 5% of reserves hedged. Kinross has the most leverage to changes of gold price of all North American based primary gold producers. Kinross operates and maintains joint venture interests in 12 gold mines located on four continents. Although global in reach, approximately 65% of Kinross gold production is from North America, the highest percentage of any senior North American based gold producer. Kinross' annualized gold production is expected to approach 2 million ounces per year at total cash cost of less than US$200 per ounce.

Shareholders of both Echo Bay and TVX will become common shareholders of Kinross based on the exchange ratios of 0.1733 and 2.1667, respectively. On Monday, February 3, 2003 Kinross will begin trading on both the Toronto Stock Exchange ("TSX") and the New York Stock Exchange ("NYSE") reflecting the three-for-one common share consolidation approved earlier by Kinross shareholders. To profile its newly acquired senior status, Kinross will begin trading on the NYSE and to mark the occasion, President and CEO, Robert (Bob) Buchan, joined by members of Kinross management, will ring The Opening Bell(TM) on February 3, 2003. Bob Buchan, stated: "Although the primary market for Kinross common shares remains the TSX, the shifting of our U.S. listing to the NYSE is expected to increase the profile of Kinross for American and international investors. The American Stock Exchange has served Kinross and our U.S.-based shareholders very well and will continue to be the marketplace for the Echo Bay warrants that have now become exercisable into Kinross common shares on the terms described in the Kinross' Management Information Circular and Supplement."

After the three-for-one common share consolidation, Kinross will have 314,238,627 common shares outstanding. As a result of its prior ownership of shares of Echo Bay and TVX, Newmont will become Kinross' largest shareholder, holding 43,238,427 common shares, representing 13.8% of Kinross' issued and outstanding common shares. Pierre Lassonde, President of Newmont, stated: "We are very pleased with our strategic investment in Kinross. As a major shareholder in the new company, we are looking forward to sharing in Kinross' success as the new senior gold producer. I would like to personally congratulate Bob and his management team for their efforts in putting this three-way combination together, and in the process, unlocking tremendous shareholder value." Bob Buchan added: "We look forward to enhancing value for all our shareholders with this new, elevated platform particularly in light of the improving fundamentals in the gold sector."

Letters of transmittal will be available at the offices of Georgeson Shareholder Communications Canada, Inc. ("Georgeson"), at 66 Wellington St. W., Suite 5210, Toronto Dominion Tower, Toronto Dominion Centre, Toronto, Ontario, on Monday, February 3, 2003, and will be mailed to registered shareholders, commencing February 5, 2003. Georgeson can also be contacted by phone at 416-862-8088 or 1-866-275-0885 and at www.georgesonshareholder.ca .

This press release includes certain "Forward-Looking Statements" within the meaning of section 21E of the United States Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. All statements, other than statements of historical fact, included herein, including without limitation, statements regarding potential mineralization and reserves, exploration results and future plans and objectives of Kinross, are forward-looking statements that involve various risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from Kinross' expectations are disclosed under the heading "Risk Factors" and elsewhere in Kinross' documents filed from time to time with the Toronto Stock Exchange, the United States Securities and Exchange Commission and other regulatory authorities.

SOURCE Kinross Gold Corporation

[Capablanca]

... de 3 para 1, eu deveria ter não as 1500 acções que comprei, mas somente 500. Agora, eu tinha as 1500 e já as vendi :-)

Vamos ver se logo o capital entra todinho na conta, seria demasiada sorte, eu nunca tenho sorte nenhuma, quanto mais demasiada :-)

Vamos ver, depois digo qualquer coisa ...

De qualquer forma, imaginem só, quando ela estava a 7.15/7.20 eu liguei para lá para vender a 7, o que na prática é «ao melhor». Não é que me ligam de lá outra vez a perguntar: «mas, quer vender a 7?, é que ela está a 7.15 ...», como se fosse possível vender a preços inferiores ao da procura no mercado hehehe

Quem sabe, quem sabe se não existe ineficiência nos mercados e acontecem erros destes? Em 96 um investidor que conheço ia aos bancos de manhã comprar unidades de participação de fundos de investimento à cotação de fecho da sessão anterior hehehe, quando estava a subir de manhã, era só comprar e vender no dia seguinte e facturar. Só quase 1 ano depois é que descobriram que estavam a vender os fundos com a cotação do dia anterior hehehe

Mas, provavelmente não terei sorte nenhuma, depois digo qualquer coisa ...

Abraço !

[Ulisses Pereira]

Eehehe! Se foi uma corretora nacional, em relação a acções americanas, o caso não é virgem. Aliás, conheço alguns casos de algumas pessoas que aconteceram situações idênticas (quer em reverse splits quer em stock splits). Contudo, mais tarde, a situação é normalizada o que, neste caso particular, é uma pena!

Um abraço,
Ulisses

[CABO_Y]

parece q fez um reverse stock split 1:3...... se a corretora se enganou... melhor



CABO_Y

[The X-Peculator]

The X-Peculator não sabe o que se passa. A KGC sobe 187% para os 7.17 $. Tenho conhecimento de umka fusão entre a KGC, a ECO e a TVX.

The X-Peculator comprou 1500 acções a 2.35 na 5ª feira. Agora tinha as 1.500 acções na conta, que vendeu a 7.17.

Numa situação destas, The X-Peculator vende primeiro e pergunta depois.